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Date:      Thu, 07 Apr 2022 15:57:33 +0200
From:      egoitz@ramattack.net
To:        Stefan Esser <se@freebsd.org>
Cc:        freebsd-fs@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-performance@freebsd.org, Rainer Duffner <rainer@ultra-secure.de>
Subject:   Re: {* 05.00 *}Re: Re: Desperate with 870 QVO and ZFS
Message-ID:  <da6d546fd9294c37cf46a5f3e71896f5@ramattack.net>
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Hi!! 

Thanks ;) really man :) 

Answering below in bold blue...

El 2022-04-07 12:05, Stefan Esser escribió:

> I just noticed that this is not the extreme total size of a ZFS pool
> (should have noticed this while answering late at night ...)
> 
> And no, a specified life-time of 2880 TB written is not much, it is
> at the absolute lower end of currently available SSDs at 360 TB per
> 1 TB of capacity. 
> 
> YEP THAT'S IT...
> 
> This is equivalent to 360 total capacity writes, but given the high
> amount of write amplification that can be assumed to occur in your
> use case, I'd heavily over-provision a system with such SSDs ...
> (or rather: strictly avoid them in a non-consumer setting). 
> 
> It's slightly late for over-provisioning... you know... we have done the zpool create with the whole disk..not just a slice.... 
> 
> WE CAN TRY TO BE SLIGHTLY FAR FROM THE 80% CAPACITY LIMIT BUT.... NOT POSSIBLE NOW... AT LEAST FOR THIS GROUP OF SERVERS... 
> 
> CHEERS!
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<p>Hi!!</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>Thanks ;) really man :)</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>Answering below in bold blue...</p>
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<p>El 2022-04-07 12:05, Stefan Esser escribi&oacute;:</p>
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<strong><span style=3D"color: #0000ff;">Yep that's it...</span></strong><br=
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r<br /> use case, I'd heavily over-provision a system with such SSDs ...<br=
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It's slightly late for over-provisioning... you know... we have done the zp=
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<strong><span style=3D"color: #0000ff;">We can try to be slightly far from =
the 80% capacity limit but.... not possible now... at least for this group =
of servers...</span></strong></div>
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<strong><span style=3D"color: #0000ff;">Cheers!</span></strong></div>
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