From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 11:05:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 949F016A4CE for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 11:05:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from volginfo.ru (ns.volginfo.ru [217.23.84.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 391C843D9E for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 11:05:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from den@FreeBSD.org) Received: from volginfo.ru (localhost.volginfo.ru [127.0.0.1]) by volginfo.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDED4208D; Fri, 6 May 2005 15:05:06 +0400 (MSD) Received: from [192.168.1.32] (llp-13.vistcom.ru [217.23.84.68]) by volginfo.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C3CF2018; Fri, 6 May 2005 15:05:06 +0400 (MSD) Message-ID: <427B4F49.9070705@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 15:04:41 +0400 From: Denis Peplin User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050331) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Juergen Unger References: <427743ED.6020200@FreeBSD.org> <20050503120958.Y42342@eleanor.us1.wmi.uvac.net> <4277BFD7.2000508@elischer.org> <20050503222512.GA53874@crow.addict.de> In-Reply-To: <20050503222512.GA53874@crow.addict.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP cc: c0ldbyte cc: hackers@freebsd.org cc: Julian Elischer Subject: Re: mergemaster improvement (auto-update for not modified files) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 11:05:04 -0000 Hello! Juergen Unger wrote: > On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 11:15:51AM -0700, Julian Elischer wrote: >>files that I have not touched are at default state and I wnat them to move >>to teh new default state. Files I have touched, I want to look at by hand. > > > so do I. And to go a step further: why do we at all have to run > this things in single-user mode ? > Not that I am not aware of the technical reasons for it > BUT: why don't we run both the installworld and the mergemaster > jobs in a manner where they only _preparing_ the installation of > the update ? ... maybe creating a jobfile which could be > run automatically during reboot to make the update instantaneous > happen without a long downtime to do it all manually in > single-user mode over a slow serial console ? Ideas like this are definitely flying around. In addition I can say that it will be good to recieve control back even if something goes wrong on such auto-update. Maybe statically-linked sshd in root directory would help in such (and many other) situations.