From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 28 22:31:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA17941 for stable-outgoing; Sun, 28 Sep 1997 22:31:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usr08.primenet.com (tlambert@usr08.primenet.com [206.165.6.208]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA17933; Sun, 28 Sep 1997 22:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr08.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA16168; Sun, 28 Sep 1997 22:31:28 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199709290531.WAA16168@usr08.primenet.com> Subject: Re: 'fxp' driver/hardware lossage (was Re: Alexander B. Povol's mail) To: rgrimes@GndRsh.aac.dev.com (Rodney W. Grimes) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 05:31:28 +0000 (GMT) Cc: tlambert@primenet.com, sthaug@nethelp.no, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199709280656.XAA20941@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> from "Rodney W. Grimes" at Sep 27, 97 11:56:53 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Ah, Terry, do you realize who you quoted above? Please reread > what I wrote, I don't think you can find a NIC that meets my > spec without getting a ``good one''. Yes; I'll note the subtle distinction between "prevent" and "not fail as a result of". If you are spending money, since hubs cost more than cards, unless you already have a significant amount of bad cards to hubs, and the price of replacing the cards is higher than the marginal cost of upgrading the card to a switch, you might as well go for "not fail as a result of" instead, and save the money. The problem is specific to the fxp cards; don't buy fxp cards, and you don't have the problem. Upgrade your hubs to switches, and you don't have the problem. Is it really cheaper to buy switched than new cards? Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.