From owner-freebsd-current Tue Aug 29 9:48:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 342A237B424; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 09:48:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e7TGmYf26418; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 09:48:34 -0700 Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 09:48:34 -0700 From: Brooks Davis To: Mike Meyer Cc: Brooks Davis , Greg Lehey , Warner Losh , Maxim Sobolev , Donn Miller , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: hints static wiring Message-ID: <20000829094834.A24849@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> References: <14762.8323.382969.782508@guru.mired.org> <39AA3882.914FC0A0@cvzoom.net> <14762.14890.276820.183791@guru.mired.org> <39AA5DC6.8D73081B@FreeBSD.org> <14762.24829.363032.115605@guru.mired.org> <39AA6699.41E12730@FreeBSD.org> <14762.26659.335.344828@guru.mired.org> <20000829102526.A11422@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20000828182921.A31041@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> <14763.32541.584299.589745@guru.mired.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <14763.32541.584299.589745@guru.mired.org>; from mwm@mired.org on Tue, Aug 29, 2000 at 04:15:09AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Aug 29, 2000 at 04:15:09AM -0500, Mike Meyer wrote: > Brooks Davis writes: > > This is more correct. The new world order says that hints are not in the > > kernel, instead they are loaded by the loader at boot time. By default > > they are loaded from /boot/device.hints. Without hints in some form old, > > stupid devices don't work. Unfortunatly, PC consoles are old, stupid > > devices for compatability reasons so it's best to have a working hints > > file around. > > Just curious - are there no defaults at all if you don't have a hints > file somewhere? That seems a bit strange. If you don't have a hints file in /boot and you didn't suck one in as a static config during boot then, yes there are no defaults. I think the idea is that we should eventualy get to a state where (on legacy free systems at least) we really can run with no hints because everything is PnP. This also means you should be able to boot generic on some really strange systems just by modifying the hints file. -- Brooks -- Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message