Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2020 11:55:22 +0200 From: Emmanuel Vadot <manu@bidouilliste.com> To: Kyle Evans <kevans@freebsd.org> Cc: Clay Daniels <clay.daniels.jr@gmail.com>, "freebsd-current@freebsd.org" <current@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD Release Engineering Team <re@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: nightly snapshot for CURRENT ? Message-ID: <20200610115522.9b8541a12e746d24bb9537c2@bidouilliste.com> In-Reply-To: <CACNAnaFarTm=LiKoCM8C57xhv0rad1w_iojVSqMe9NmqROUMLg@mail.gmail.com> References: <20200609214756.13e9cbbc2de12bbb78839875@bidouilliste.com> <CAGLDxTXf3yW-Cg_27yPYjuT1cCZ96ripgq_UxoZys6saKkeHiw@mail.gmail.com> <CACNAnaFarTm=LiKoCM8C57xhv0rad1w_iojVSqMe9NmqROUMLg@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, 9 Jun 2020 19:56:27 -0500 Kyle Evans <kevans@freebsd.org> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 7:17 PM Clay Daniels <clay.daniels.jr@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 2:48 PM Emmanuel Vadot <manu@bidouilliste.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello all, > > > > > > I've just hit again something that I've hit (and probably others too) > > > often. > > > If a change in base break some ports and it's snapshoted in the txz > > > available at download.freebsd.org, you need to wait a week for the next > > > tarball to be available. > > > Since poudriere uses the tarball when you setup a jail it means that > > > the only solution you have is to recreate your jail by building it, and > > > since building world nowdays is very expensive that delay your work too > > > much. > > > Would it be possible to generate the tarballs every day instead of > > > every week ? At least for tier-1 arches. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > -- > > > Emmanuel Vadot <manu@bidouilliste.com> <manu@freebsd.org> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > At first I thought you were referring to the weekly snapshots packaged as > > install images: > > https://download.freebsd.org/ftp/snapshots/ISO-IMAGES/13.0/ > > > > But I think you are talking about the snapshots of each part, like base, > > kernel, ports. src, etc to use as a roll your own install like: > > https://download.freebsd.org/ftp/snapshots/arm64/13.0-CURRENT/ > > > > Yes, these are the parts he's talking about. My initial impression is > that it'd be nice if we could (somehow) leverage Jenkins artifacts [0] > to get even more frequent updates if we really needed to without > significantly impacting re@ -- that's a little more difficult, though, > because build breakage makes it hard to predict what the latest > snapshot you can actually grab is, if any. Perhaps a script that > creates a symlink to the 'last known functional across the board' > revision periodically... > > [0] http://artifacts.ci.freebsd.org/snapshot/head/r361934/amd64/amd64/ I haven't thought about using those, I'll see if I can come up with a poudriere patch that could use this. Thanks for the idea :) > > From my selfish perspective as a weekly installer of the regular Thursday > > image or iso of 13.0 Current, I would hate to lose the pre-rolled > > installer, and I think there are probably others like me. As long as you > > keep the weekly install snapshots, it will not affect folks like me. I must > > say that what you want to do is how NetBSD does their daily cent > > snapshots, and they do not even offer pre-rolled install images. > > > > But you are a real developer and I'm just a retired guy playing with his > > hobby, so go ahead and do what you think is best for you. > > > > This was brought up in a public forum, you should probably feel free > to make non-obstructive comments like this to make sure a fairly > common need is represented. The (light-hearted?) self-deprecation near > the end of this makes me a bit uneasy- I certainly hope you didn't > feel like it was mandatory to acknowledge that he's a developer and > you're a hobbyist, because there's most assuredly more hobbyists (such > as myself) lurking with similar needs/desires. =-) > > Thanks, > > Kyle Evans > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Emmanuel Vadot <manu@bidouilliste.com> <manu@freebsd.org>
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