From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 3 19:23:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3718D106564A for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2008 19:23:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail2.fluidhosting.com (mx23.fluidhosting.com [204.14.89.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEA468FC0C for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2008 19:23:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 29835 invoked by uid 399); 3 Jul 2008 19:23:38 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO lap.dougb.net) (dougb@dougbarton.us@127.0.0.1) by localhost with ESMTPAM; 3 Jul 2008 19:23:38 -0000 X-Originating-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-Sender: dougb@dougbarton.us Message-ID: <486D2738.7020709@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:23:36 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080606) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <784966050807021123l267aa20en39eb513c12c90ad2@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <784966050807021123l267aa20en39eb513c12c90ad2@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 OpenPGP: id=D5B2F0FB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Sysinstall is still inadequate after all of these years X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:23:39 -0000 Mike Makonnen has some very interesting ideas on this topic: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2007-December/081400.html FWIW, I think that there are 3 basic requirements for a new installer: 1. It should be library-based and therefore be capable of supporting at least a few different UIs (see above). 2. At least one of those UIs should be functional over a standard serial console. 3. It should be scriptable. hth, Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection