From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Mar 22 11: 6:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f126.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.17.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4AF837B417 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 11:06:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 11:06:24 -0800 Received: from 68.6.86.185 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 19:06:23 GMT X-Originating-IP: [68.6.86.185] From: "Charles Burns" To: jogegabsd@yahoo.com, questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Advocacy help for CS professor Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 12:06:23 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Mar 2002 19:06:24.0367 (UTC) FILETIME=[A91DF7F0:01C1D1D4] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >just ask him, If he have to teach Operating Systems Internals, >what Operating system will he choose? Heh, Windows internals would be a four year degree. ;-) > > - He says Unix is fragmented, therefore cannot have a unified vision and > > focus, and that this automatically makes it inferior to Windows which is > > under one company with theoretically one vision and focus.(to own > > everything > > :-) > >fragmented in what? In that there is one company working on Windows, one desktop Windows product at any given time (XP at the moment) whereas the Unixworld has Solaris, Free-Net-OpenBSD, Linux, HP-UX, Tru64, etc. While there is some sharing between them, particularly the OSS Unices, there are alot of differences that make programming for them all a PITA. I argued that as far as the commercial Unices go, if they all find different ways of doing the same thing, there will be multiple (possibly good) ideas in use, and eventually the best would win--whereas in the MS world, there is no competition among algorithms. Once it is implimented, that is that, unless something very serious requires a change. (MS typically never rewrites things) >One of the main points I think is important also is fear. This people >does not know anything about UNIX and so they feel scare about it. They >think is some sort of weird thing. That's another odd thing about this guy. I don't know for a fact that he knows anything about Unix, but he used to design and develop operating systems for Burroughs corp. Presumably he is aware of Windows internals out of OS interest alone, and believes that it is better than what Unix could be, so one can deduce that he is not familiar with Unix internals. (While MS may or may not have a good product, nobody in their right mind can argue that its internal architecture is anything but a horrible mess of backwards compatibility with terrible design decisions) http://gate.cruzio.com/~billf/babag/ You made some very useful points that I will work into a document that I am writing. Thankyou. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message