From nobody Sun Oct 26 22:53:40 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-pkgbase@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4cvsPr1SKdz6DmSv for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2025 22:53:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivy@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R13" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4cvsPr0pYFz3c8t for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2025 22:53:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivy@freebsd.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1761519232; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=gcbLytux3ZUUX8nrZ0xdYVFCRJr6HXALQiVDZ8tiZIk=; b=tBAK4Sp8ygJB1ir0WpT0Jbfoq8egos8lc8nWGorhbhRf7hrsd4IrcXSKF9kiJg4fCBlgmw sYHSpZ/PZOZhm3rxWxDk3pp/oyjvFic+yYa7J7yvdEbn0QI+3vVuquEMqTd1vX5EzvvAZh iTXMrtchxJOSsMlBIFqWM/IlOP7hxeMBKJTDpbWOfr+k558NPBWhm+MWcWa0fjyaNlIQ0u /t5pVzi3eAsxwCm+tpx71vZKaocvlP8IEDXYLg87RIARPMIptAkx622dTXVMN4Baa25PtR AzQD4+pnpMT/KsfsKvqnLrT9txuc1jpem0riywT6xbWZ4HvqbacUJbueIJdOLg== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1761519232; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=gcbLytux3ZUUX8nrZ0xdYVFCRJr6HXALQiVDZ8tiZIk=; b=Um+tWc/97f80/4adAmPp0wgFbz0D5ldwU7nZh/Ja7W+hTRiNAXGOx5+f628lODRymQcYRL b7uYy8ASeT866kfMY8Sg4Fn8boMi7bftyFUDgGCToMVWyuKklCr/raOZs6lq/wpgHkP25G DSdNbrTKRPc9PF687d4NzJ5JgaCfBLKinywzLlmkMUbaleEuR6bMa6iHpAlzYkrcMcNNCu 5DYEV7x/mzvrzoOjglqyxKIIueACI3g9zWMkTwZyxataYfDThDSb8oY0+54Jjchp/LeAex JurRMEuXH8ooafSsbRyT2gUvNj68NPT0Ar2HqoFTLKXUkDbO5BtHBlUmvG5r1g== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1761519232; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=FyKfyRnoadJJrEXkpeTpVnhHGZxcKOPFSqrndLUiDuINrPqLi6ICU0hpdpyufIZu8+F7+M h1SVKd+sALuvavH36yVNC9vyr4HqiqocwLuAH6QoMBr+1IXsJWNutGfbF4C0jkcX+sTZL/ CxWDk9vaTIqgXkc/ISPtQDslOmKVl5XD/RczzqoYQDxE+5i5ZiA+N/O/RrZVj5KR1K2s8+ v0AvJ1dDx1cOWFnXaahpIHkE1T/8nIQ/z7Rhv9fuyAU3PXdgUpqGvVXFsI4rQZX2JEKJC/ zkp4KcOQdhVGQ8sQXHmIu17fGkXctno0NAD8lakHjSfU0jzSfDDwVaWKayJmCg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from amaryllis.le-fay.org (amaryllis.le-fay.org [IPv6:2a00:1098:6b:400::9]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: ivy/mail) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4cvsPq509tz2R1 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2025 22:53:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivy@freebsd.org) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2025 22:53:40 +0000 From: Lexi Winter To: freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org Subject: Re: user feedback Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org References: <06f829a7-4378-4a24-a3db-f929d812cddd@gmx.at> <5bd8bb99-d856-4074-8ce0-4806fab30689@gmx.at> List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="58GdBVKwqkK47aK7" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5bd8bb99-d856-4074-8ce0-4806fab30689@gmx.at> --58GdBVKwqkK47aK7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable infoomatic wrote in <5bd8bb99-d856-4074-8ce0-4806fab30689@gmx.at>: > I kept my VM around, and upgraded to Beta 2 a few hours after announcemen= t. > However, I have noticed that only few packages upgraded from b1 to b2, so= in > the end I had a mix of b1 and b2 packages installed. Is this fine and as = it > should be for future installations? this is normal. for each build, only packages which have actually changed get a new version, and not much changed overall between b1 and b2. > [...] Now having packages with b1, b2, b3 it seems a bit odd since I > don't know if the pkg upgrade just had an error or the mirror was not > in sync or something else did not work the way it should. =20 this is not that different from how freebsd-update worked, e.g. when an update doesn't touch the kernel, so you're running 15.0-RELEASE-p1 but uname says 15.0-RELEASE. at least with packages, you can tell what the actual installed version is, and compare it to the versions listed in the EN/SA. the alternative would be that updating a single file for 15.0-RELEASE-p1 would require building a new version of every package just to update the version number, which is not reasonable. > Will all new package versions be accompanied by erratas or security > announcements once 15.0-RELEASE is released? all updates to a release branch (e.g., 15.0-RELEASE) are published as EN/SA. --58GdBVKwqkK47aK7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHUEABYKAB0WIQSyjTg96lp3RifySyn1nT63mIK/YAUCaP6mcQAKCRD1nT63mIK/ YFwDAQDUsQ3CjfpOXO2x8w/UsGXgWHd7EuRSxSfTuOuwJ0i9agEA2HU642eRKtC8 sJaeGqUGnQwaVHdyOyKqmPTobxbK0Qs= =s4N/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --58GdBVKwqkK47aK7--