From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 1 18:27:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCDCF16A400; Tue, 1 May 2007 18:27:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from server.t-hosting.hu (server.t-hosting.hu [217.20.133.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7438213C459; Tue, 1 May 2007 18:27:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.t-hosting.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88C1A9F2D11; Tue, 1 May 2007 20:27:09 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at t-hosting.hu Received: from server.t-hosting.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (server.t-hosting.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id gm89xYGqeljd; Tue, 1 May 2007 20:27:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.2.186] (catv-5063f539.catv.broadband.hu [80.99.245.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.t-hosting.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F4B09F2D10; Tue, 1 May 2007 20:27:06 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <46378676.7070504@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 01 May 2007 20:27:02 +0200 From: Gabor Kovesdan User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Harald Schmalzbauer References: <20070501003935.GA1043@nagual.pp.ru> <20070501083009.GA4627@nagual.pp.ru> <20070501160645.GA9333@nagual.pp.ru> <200705012017.06445.h.schmalzbauer@omnisec.de> In-Reply-To: <200705012017.06445.h.schmalzbauer@omnisec.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: FreeBSD Ports , das@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Andrey Chernov , alfred@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS DOWN (was Re: HEADS UP: putenv, setenv, unsetenv, getenv changes) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 May 2007 18:27:14 -0000 Harald Schmalzbauer escribió: > Am Dienstag, 1. Mai 2007 schrieb Andrey Chernov: > >> All backed out. >> >> Not because I admit they are technically wrong and not because of bug >> reports (I receive nothing). But because I surprisingly meets so >> strong opposition and resistance so lost any desire to continue that. >> > > I'm very sorry to hear that. I don't have the skills to comment anything > technically, but I just wanted to say that I'm suprised that -current is that > stable for me these days. It's wonderful, but I think making progress in > standard compliance and/or testing new developed stuff (eg. the new USB > stack) is much more important than making -current a production branch. > I'm a friend of standrads and I highly appreciate your work Andrey, and I hope > we will see your work back in the tree as soon as possible. > > Diffrent people do things different, but that's why FreeBSD is what it is > today. The accummulation of excellent work by excellent people. > I completely agree with Harry, standards are good and necessary. I can't comment the technical part either, though. Regards, Gabor