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To: Tom Wadlow <wadlow@pilot.net>
cc: Nate Williams <nate@mt.sri.com>, hackers@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Ethernet options on 2.2-GAMMA 
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Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 21:05:44 -0800
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From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>
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> recognize it at a zp0. Tried it with all non-essential devices disabled,
> and with all enabled, and reasonable permutations between.  Gotten into
> the Emergency shell, and looked for it with ifconfig too, just to be sure
> (though if the kernel doesn't acknowledge it, ifconfig sure as hell isn't
> gonna see it....)

Sounds like it's just one of those situations where either the card or
the Laptop's PCCARD support is just not what FreeBSD expects.  Did you
have any different results with the PAO floppy?  I'm not sure, but I
thought they used a different driver for this over there.  Both the
ze0 and zp0 drivers are actually kludges in the non-PAO (e.g. the
default) code - early versions of ed0 and ep0 were cloned off and
hacked into the PCCARD-specific versions you see now as ze0 and zp0.
The PAO folks are, unless I'm very much mistaken (and Nate would know
a lot better than I about that), undertaking the far more difficult
task of making their drivers simply auto-load when a card is inserted.
That would make their drivers fairly divergent just by that fact
alone.

> BTW, I don't know what the netiquette of this particular list is, so
> please advise if I should take this discussion offline from

I think it's fine - we're talking about the technical aspects of
getting an obscure card to work.  Perhaps it could be a little more
specifically channelled into -hardware, but I think there's more than
enough overlap that -hackers is fine too.

> hackers@freebsd.org.  If it's annoying, blame Jordan.  He convinced me to
> give FreeBSD a try at Usenix ;-)

Hey now, I just rope 'em in, I don't claim responsibility for 'em
afterwards.  :-)

					Jordan