From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 5 21:43:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72E721065670 for ; Mon, 5 Sep 2011 21:43:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mi+thun@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E88908FC14 for ; Mon, 5 Sep 2011 21:43:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.37]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 05 Sep 2011 17:43:11 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 4.2.3-GA) with ESMTP id BBG53772; Mon, 5 Sep 2011 17:43:10 -0400 Received-SPF: None identity=pra; client-ip=209.6.61.133; receiver=smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net; envelope-from="mi+thun@aldan.algebra.com"; x-sender="mi+thun@aldan.algebra.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: None identity=mailfrom; client-ip=209.6.61.133; receiver=smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net; envelope-from="mi+thun@aldan.algebra.com"; x-sender="mi+thun@aldan.algebra.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: None identity=helo; client-ip=209.6.61.133; receiver=smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net; envelope-from="mi+thun@aldan.algebra.com"; x-sender="postmaster@[192.168.1.8]"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible X-Auth-ID: anat Received: from 209-6-61-133.c3-0.sbo-ubr1.sbo.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO [192.168.1.8]) ([209.6.61.133]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 05 Sep 2011 17:43:03 -0400 Message-ID: <4E654272.2050104@aldan.algebra.com> Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2011 17:43:14 -0400 From: "Mikhail T." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110706 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Barton References: <201109050933.p859XEbP004874@fire.js.berklix.net> <4E64C35A.50004@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4E64C35A.50004@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ports@freebsd.org, "Julian H. Stacey" , Chris Rees Subject: Community's opinion (Re: Re: sysutils/cfs_ X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2011 21:43:12 -0000 On -10.01.-28163 14:59, Doug Barton wrote: >>> It is not responsible to threaten to remove ports without warning >>> between releases for non urgent reasons. > We understand that this is your perspective, however the community in > general has a different idea. Well, several committers are on (recent) record agreeing with Julian and myself. Yet, the "community", supposedly, feels different. Can we ask, just what that nameless "community" is, and how do we know its opinion? Has there been a vote? What were the results? Were they overwhelming to one side, or close? And what, exactly, are our bylaws and procedures for when there is no consensus? Thanks! Yours, -mi