From nobody Tue Feb 15 15:23:06 2022 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 743C619CE118 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2022 15:23:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk) Received: from bs1.fjl.org.uk (bs1.fjl.org.uk [84.45.41.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4JylGP1K69z3RL2 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2022 15:23:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk) Received: from [192.168.1.52] (host86-165-180-63.range86-165.btcentralplus.com [86.165.180.63]) (authenticated bits=0) by bs1.fjl.org.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id 21FFN6jN030313 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2022 15:23:06 GMT (envelope-from freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk) Message-ID: <15861bde-84d1-f758-6fdb-fec26109ba11@fjl.co.uk> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2022 15:23:06 +0000 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.5.1 From: Frank Leonhardt Subject: Re: OpenSMTPd - is it time to move? To: questions@freebsd.org References: <723d9038-88f5-dab4-b919-3932d007904b@fjl.co.uk> Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4JylGP1K69z3RL2 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk designates 84.45.41.196 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.40 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:84.45.41.196:c]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[84.45.41.196:from]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[fjl.co.uk]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; ASN(0.00)[asn:25577, ipnet:84.45.0.0/17, country:GB]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[86.165.180.63:received] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 15/02/2022 11:52, Mark Tinka wrote: > On 2/15/22 13:42, Frank Leonhardt wrote: > >> I wouldn't suggest moving sendmail from base, but I've noticed >> OpenSMTPd is gaining popularity. >> >> I've invested 35 years in learning how to make sendmail work, so I >> can cope with it's convoluted configuration; although every time I >> need to make a change I still get twitchy. I've tried Exim and >> Postfix at times, but always returned to the devil I knew best. >> >> What are people's real world experiences with OpenSMTPd for a low >> volume MTA? It's not like we need UUCP or Mail-11 interoperability >> any more. > > Interesting - I'll admit to never hearing about OpenSMTPd until now. > > I started out with Sendmail. Moved to Qmail. Moved to Exim. That was > nearly 20 years ago. > > I am still with Exim, even for personal use on my laptop. > Yes, smtpd snuck up on me too. I tried Exim (and have it running in various places) but I never figured out how to get it to play nice with spamassassin and procmail - whereas sendmail already did. I just remember switching from imapd/qpopper to dovecot ~15 years ago and wondering why the hell I hadn't done it earlier.