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Date:      Thu, 4 Feb 1999 14:16:54 -0600 (CST)
From:      James Wyatt <jwyatt@RWSystems.net>
To:        "Christopher G. Petrilli" <petrilli@amber.org>
Cc:        Richard Wackerbarth <rkw@dataplex.net>, security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Enabling bpf device in kernel (was: Re: tcpdump)
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.05.9902041407080.15871-100000@kasie.rwsystems.net>
In-Reply-To: <19990204102322.28863@amber.org>

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On Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 05:10:40AM -0600, Richard Wackerbarth wrote:
> I think that the world is moving toward dhcp as the primary method of
> learning appropriate IP configuration data.

On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Christopher G. Petrilli wrote:
> I would agree that this is true for clients, but I don't believe it will
> ever be true for servers... and remember, FreeBSD is a server first, and
> more often than it is a client I think... at least that our experience
> with it.  I'm the only person who has a FreeBSD box on their desk as a
> client, but we have dozens of them as servers.

*This* might be a good split for boot floppies. Not dozens w/different
hardware, just two for server v.s. client. The server would have higher
MAX_USER, no dhcpd. The client could have dhcp, bpf, and maybe sound. Of
course, this means more work for the folks who bring us FreeBSD. What do
they think? OTOH: I usually build server kernels by hand anyway to tune
RAM/users/ptys/etc and carefully spec drivers and options. I have begun
building most kernels on one box and FTP-ing them anyway.

> Ick, I've never had anything but sickness with DHCP on Unices... I
> understand it's value, and in fact one of my FreeBSD boxes is a DHCP
> server for several hundered Wintel boxes... Hmm, I'm just affraid that

It's not so bad. We had to do it for one guy who had DHCP on hist
CableModem, though some use static addresses. Amazing how different two CM
setups a few miles apart on the same company can be. Does anyone get
anything 'interesting' running a bpf on one? 8{)  - Jy@


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