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Date:      Sat, 4 Apr 2015 02:29:04 +0300
From:      Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>
To:        Artem Kuchin <artem@artem.ru>
Cc:        freebsd-fs@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Little research how rm -rf and tar kill server
Message-ID:  <20150403232904.GI2379@kib.kiev.ua>
In-Reply-To: <551F20E0.9040103@artem.ru>
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On Sat, Apr 04, 2015 at 02:23:12AM +0300, Artem Kuchin wrote:
> 04.04.2015 2:15, Konstantin Belousov пишет:
> > On Sat, Apr 04, 2015 at 12:59:38AM +0300, Artem Kuchin wrote:
> >> 03.04.2015 0:02, Konstantin Belousov пишет:
> >>> On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 01:13:51AM +0300, Artem Kuchin wrote:
> >>>> 31.03.2015 19:42, Konstantin Belousov пишет:
> >>>>> Syncer and sync(2) perform different kind of syncs. Take the snapshot of
> >>>>> sysctl debug.softdep before and after the situation occur to have some
> >>>>> hints what is going on.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> Okay. Here is the sysctl  data
> >>> Try this.  It may be not enough, I will provide some update in this case.
> >>> No need to resend the sysctl data.  Just test whether explicit sync(2) is
> >>> needed in your situation after the patch.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Okay, patches, recompiled and installed new kernel.
> >>
> >> The behaviour changed a bit.
> >>
> >> Now when i start untar mysql quickly rises to 40 queries in the queue in
> >> opening table state.
> >> (before the rise was slower)
> >> BUT after a while (20-30 seconds) all queries are executed.
> >> This cycle repeated 4 times and then situation aggravated quickly. It
> >> happened when untar
> >> reached big subtree with tons of small files.
> >> Queue grew to 70 queries, processes went to 600 (from 450).
> >> I stopped untar. Waited 3 minutes. Everything was becoming even worse
> >> (700 process, over 100
> >> queries). Issued sync. It executed for 3 seconds and voila! 20 idle
> >> connections, 450 processes.
> >> So, manual sync is still need.
> >>
> >> Also it seems like during untar shell was less responsive than before.
> >>
> >> Also, when the system managed to flush query queue systat -io shows over
> >> 1000 tps, but when
> >> they got stuck it showed only about 200 tps.
> > So there were the i/o ops during the stall period ?  I.e., a situation
> > where there is clogged queue and hung processes, but no disk activity,
> > does not occur, even temporary ?
> not, such does not happen. untar is always untarring and file bases 
> sites continue
> to works, just slower, but mysql queries build up, but some are executed
> >
> > In what state the hung processes are blocked ?  Look at the wchan name
> > either in top or ps output.  Are there processes in "suspfs" state ?
> 
> no,  after the patch all in normal state, only mysql in UFS state and 
> some perl and http
> (mayb 3 or 5) in ufs state too
What about unpatched kernel ?  Are "suspfs" blocked processes reported
by either tool ?

> >
> > Try the following patch.
> 
> trying now.



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