From owner-freebsd-current Fri May 23 09:38:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA29853 for current-outgoing; Fri, 23 May 1997 09:38:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA29844; Fri, 23 May 1997 09:38:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA07391; Fri, 23 May 1997 09:36:16 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199705231636.JAA07391@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: UU.NET, SPAM, and Cyberpromotions (was Re: usregsite.com) To: alex@androcles.com (Duane H. Hesser) Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 09:36:16 -0700 (MST) Cc: cat@uunet.ca, current@hub.freebsd.org, jmb@hub.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Duane H. Hesser" at May 22, 97 08:49:45 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I have no specific information on that (if you do, I'd be interested > to hear it). Uunet is the grandaddy of ISP's, and I would, by > reputation and past experience, expect them to behave responsibly. > Perhaps they've grown too big, and I didn't notice? They've stated that they no longer run a public posting host; however, I have recently received mail from an account of theirs being used by Cyberpromptions "mailbomber" program; headers were: | Received: from 206.13.28.25 | (1Cust52.Max31.Chicago.IL.MS.UU.NET [153.35.113.180]) | by mail-gw.pacbell.net (8.8.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id EAA07399; | Thu, 8 May 1997 04:09:14 -0700 (PDT) I did report it, and haven't seen anything since after the second time I had to report it to them; I got their canned response, so it may be that they have taken care of this one. I think, though, that they are still in the position where they can be illicitly used as a mail relay. I've been mail-bombed by Cyberpromotions for complaining to their abuse address when they failed to remove me from the lists they sell their customers, and theier customers refused to honor (or in some cases provide) a working "remove" address. Since then, for every intermediate host their program has used as a relay to get to my host, I've made a (1 month time limited) offer of free assistance in preventing use as a mail relay by all by approved hosts. I've helped 6 sites so far. Currently, I'm working on site/IP based SPAM filtering for a mail server product that my company has sold into tens of thousands of installations, so if they choose the install option, Cyberpromotions and their ilk will be blocked for new installations. I have it on good authority that similar changes are going into Post.Office and the default sendmail distribution. Serves them right for SPAMming their transport providers. 8-). Eventually Cyberpromotions will "get it" that sending SPAM to me is the equivalent of severing whichever line of communication they use to send to me, and that it's in their economic best interests to remove my address. Or they will sever them all... either way, I'm happy. Regards, Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.