From owner-freebsd-chat Sat May 13 18:11:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from happy.checkpoint.com (happy.checkpoint.com [199.203.156.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE57A37BBBE for ; Sat, 13 May 2000 18:11:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mellon@pobox.com) Received: (from mellon@localhost) by happy.checkpoint.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA19139; Sun, 14 May 2000 04:10:46 GMT (envelope-from mellon@pobox.com) Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 04:10:46 +0000 From: Anatoly Vorobey To: adsharma@sharmas.dhs.org Cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why are people against GNU? WAS Re: 5.0 already? Message-ID: <20000514041046.C17455@happy.checkpoint.com> References: <391D4DAD.FD80980A@picusnet.com> <003b01bfbcdc$6059fb40$a164aad0@kickme> <391D71FE.1570F551@asme.org> <20000513205610.A22103@physics.iisc.ernet.in> <3.0.6.32.20000513143506.00895650@mail85.pair.com> <20000514010614.A16058@happy.checkpoint.com> <3.0.6.32.20000513180213.00894400@mail85.pair.com> <20000514023000.A16663@happy.checkpoint.com> <200005140100.SAA17185@sharmas.dhs.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200005140100.SAA17185@sharmas.dhs.org>; from adsharma@sharmas.dhs.org on Sat, May 13, 2000 at 06:00:58PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, May 13, 2000 at 06:00:58PM -0700, Arun Sharma wrote: > In muc.lists.freebsd.chat, you wrote: > > Chess games cannot be copyrighted. I don't know if you play chess, > > but if you do, you must know that chess games can be works of art, > > they can be extremely nontrivial, and contain exhilarating, new > > ideas that noone before had thought of. > > But chess books are copyrightable. Yes, but you can take out the games out of a book and republish them all you want (collections in such cases may be copyrightable under the database law, but individual games are always public domain). That was my point. Players work very hard to play chess and produce games (or composers to create chess compositions) and yet they're not protected by copyright. Anyone can republish. I can go into a bookstore and copy out the games from a chessbook without buying it. How is that? > Whatever -ism is being practiced, one needs to have a framework in > which people get compensated for their work. I don't think Stallman's > "support economy" can support all the programmers out there. Neither do I, and this is one of the reasons I don't like his ideas. However, they are not Communist, they are not Marxist, and they are not without merit. -- Anatoly Vorobey, mellon@pobox.com http://pobox.com/~mellon/ "Angels can fly because they take themselves lightly" - G.K.Chesterton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message