From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 20 3:43:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from post.webmailer.de (natpost.webmailer.de [192.67.198.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 346EA37B404 for ; Mon, 20 May 2002 03:43:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ianb (pD9E0ED83.dip.t-dialin.net [217.224.237.131]) by post.webmailer.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA25402; Mon, 20 May 2002 12:43:37 +0200 (MET DST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Steve Mazerski To: Jan Grant Subject: Re: "Base system" applications, files (newby-ish questions) Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 12:45:07 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.4] Cc: Dan Nelson , freebsd-questions References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200205201245.07349.smazerski@yahoo.co.jp> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Monday 20 May 2002 12:21, Jan Grant wrote: > On Sun, 19 May 2002, Steve Mazerski wrote: > > On Sunday 19 May 2002 22:23, Dan Nelson wrote: > > > In the last episode (May 19), Steve Mazerski said: > > > > (...) > > > > 1. "Base system" applications > > > > > > > > not quite sure what the technical term is, but FreeBSD installs a > > > > certain number of applications as part of the basic installation.= Is > > > > there any way of generating an overview (a la pkg_info) of which > > > > applications / versions thereof are installed? > > > > > > For the most part, you can assume the version of all the binaries i= s > > > "4.5", or whatever version of BSD you just installed. > > > > Sorry, forgot to mention. I installed 4.5-RELEASE. > > > > > The base > > > system is pretty much treated as a single unit. Exceptions are > > > programs that are actively maintained outside of FreeBSD: gcc, ntpd= , > > > ssh, etc. The release engineers try not to upgrade these, preferri= ng > > > to merge in only security fixes. Makes it easier to people to upgr= ade > > > without having to redo all their config files. > > > > Does that mean updates to these are made available between > > FreeBSD releases, or only with each successive release? > > Updates are made available continuously. What you're looking for is > described as "tracking -stable" (or possibly, just tracking security > fixes to the release) and is described in the handbook: generally, this > is done by keeping the source to the base system up-to-date with a tool > such as cvsup and rebuildint the world. This is a simple task these > days. Aha. Am beginning to find my way around now. Just found where the security advisories hang out and see they include patch instructions. > There _is_ an effort to packageise the whole of the base system; in > which case, binary upgrades should become simpler. But this is still > something that's slated for the future. I see, now I understand what's what. Many thanks Steve Mazerski To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message