From owner-svn-src-head@freebsd.org Sun Nov 5 17:30:38 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFB23E4BCFD; Sun, 5 Nov 2017 17:30:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from kib.kiev.ua (kib.kiev.ua [IPv6:2001:470:d5e7:1::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46F4633D0; Sun, 5 Nov 2017 17:30:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from tom.home (kib@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kib.kiev.ua (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id vA5HUX8A053128 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 5 Nov 2017 19:30:33 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 kib.kiev.ua vA5HUX8A053128 Received: (from kostik@localhost) by tom.home (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id vA5HUXZj053127; Sun, 5 Nov 2017 19:30:33 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: tom.home: kostik set sender to kostikbel@gmail.com using -f Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2017 19:30:32 +0200 From: Konstantin Belousov To: Conrad Meyer Cc: src-committers , svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r325386 - head/sys/kern Message-ID: <20171105173032.GE2566@kib.kiev.ua> References: <201711041049.vA4AnZUE096709@repo.freebsd.org> <20171105130607.GA2566@kib.kiev.ua> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.1 (2017-09-22) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,FREEMAIL_FROM,NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on tom.home X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2017 17:30:38 -0000 On Sun, Nov 05, 2017 at 09:16:28AM -0800, Conrad Meyer wrote: > On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 5:06 AM, Konstantin Belousov wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 04, 2017 at 12:04:56PM -0700, Conrad Meyer wrote: > >> This is a functional change, because MPASS (via KASSERT) is only > >> enabled on DEBUG kernels. Ideally we would have a kind of ASSERT that > >> worked on NODEBUG kernels. > > Why would we need such thing ? > > > > Our conventions are clear: consistency checks are normally done with > > KASSERT() and enabled for DEBUG (INVARIANTS or harder) configurations. > > We only leave explicit panics in the production kernels when there > > continuation of operations is worse then abort, e.g. when UFS detects > > the metadata corruption. > > An always-on assert construct would be precisely for the latter > scenario. Instead, we litter the tree with "if (!invariant) { > panic(); }." We do #ifdef INVARIANTS if (!condition) panic(); #endif I do not understand what do you mean by 'instead'.