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Julian Stacey:
> Anyway, it seems those CVSUP users have a luxury we CTM users don't
> have: they get to have a more recent kernel, why is that ?

Do they?

AFAIK we CTM users basically receive a constant stream of deltas, for
src-4 and src-cur (and ports-cur). 5.2.1-p9 is just a snapshot of this
stream of deltas at a specific given time. However, under CTM it's not
named 5.2.1-p9 but just RELENG_5.

> how come those
> CVSUP users get a P9, & we CTM users need to run cvs after receiving
> the cvs tree by ctm, why can't we have a CTM 5 stable feed.

AFAIK src-cur is just that.

FWIW, I (running src-4 aka 4-STABLE) have added a single line to
sys/conf/newvers.sh:

--- newvers.sh.ctm      Wed May 26 00:38:01 2004
+++ newvers.sh  Thu May 27 23:39:50 2004
@@ -86,6 +86,7 @@
 
 touch version
 v=`cat version` u=${USER-root} d=`pwd` h=`hostname` t=`date`
+test -f $(dirname $0)/../../.ctm_status && read DUMMY v <$(dirname $0)/../../.ctm_status
 cat << EOF > vers.c
 $COPYRIGHT
 char sccspad[32 - 4 /* sizeof(sccs) */] = { '\\0' };

This overrides the "kernel generation number" and displays the number of
my CTM delta instead:

FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE #1953: Tue Aug 10 12:50:10 CEST 2004     toor@localhost:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC 

In other words, I am currently on a machine that has src-4.1953.gz
applied, but no further deltas. (This may change tonight. :-))

Helge