From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 1 01:58:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC03D16A401 for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2006 01:58:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hyperconx.com) Received: from artemis.hyperconx.net (artemis.hyperconx.net [66.181.8.155]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F71A43D46 for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2006 01:58:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hyperconx.com) Received: from adsl-69-225-224-190.dsl.skt2ca.pacbell.net ([69.225.224.190] helo=Production) by artemis.hyperconx.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.54) id 1FPVNq-000AOj-7y for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 17:58:34 -0800 From: "Wil Hatfield" To: Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 18:00:34 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20060401114752.2cb0af14@localhost> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: ATA Drive Issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 01:58:34 -0000 Beto, I am currently trying to upgrade one without customers on it to 6.0. But as was the problem with 5.4 the problems don't show up until the machine is under high load. So even under 6 I won't have a clue if the issues are fixed until I get the customers on it. So it doesn't make alot of difference. I checked with the manufacturer or the machine and they assure me that they installed brand new high quality 80/40 cables. But then again what did I expect them to say. So do you know of a good high quality 80/40 manufacture and where I can buy some new cables? What's the best of the best? At Supermicro's recommendation I already phlashed to the latest bios. Well it is good to know you think 6 is better than 5.4. But then again you are running SATA and we all know 6 runs SATA better. Hopefully it runs ATA better too. -- Wil Hatfield -----Original Message----- From: Norberto Meijome [mailto:freebsd@meijome.net] Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 4:48 PM To: Wil Hatfield Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ATA Drive Issues On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 15:43:35 -0800 "Wil Hatfield" wrote: > Ok I am just nervous about going to 6.x and putting these customers > through this not once more, but twice when I have to go back to 4.x. Sorry for asking the obvious, but why not try with 6 without any customers on the servers? putting new hardware/software straight into production seems to me like looking for troubles. Anyway, back to the problem at hand, just because they ARE new doesn't mean the cables/drives are NOT bad. Granted, that many drives in a bad state would be weird...but not really if they are from the same manufacturer's batch. smartmon clearing them would suggest that it's cabling issue. seriously, TRYING new good quality cables from a different provider can't be that hard/expensive? alternatively, try different BIOS version. usually a new version of the bIOS fixes problems. BUT I have a server (dual amd64 TYAN box, 2x SATA-I controllers with 4 SATA-II drives) which would simply not boot with a newer version of the bios, so I left it at the original BIOS (yes, keep backups of your BIOS upgrades! :-) . FWIW, 6 is better than 5.4, at least for me. good luck, Beto