Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 17:06:18 -0500 From: Brandon Fosdick <bfoz@glue.umd.edu> To: Keith Woodman <keith@lightningweb.com> Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Confusion Message-ID: <36F0275A.5BFEBA40@glue.umd.edu> References: <Pine.BSF.3.96.990317122136.17016A-100000@nefertiti.lightningweb.com>
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Good point, I've been wondering the same thing. One thing to keep in mind though is that to a "code god" finding out that the code had one comment line out of place means the entire system is a piece of junk and needs to be updated. Hype cuts both ways. (IMHO) But you still have a good point. To those who don't cvsup every few days the CD's need to be rock solid OS releases that can be used for a relatively long time. I don't know how well the current system works, I cvsup fairly often, but IMHO this is a concern that needs to be addressed whenever a release is being considered. Not to say that I think it isn't currently, I'm just saying that it should be. Shouldn't this be in freebsd-chat? -Brandon Keith Woodman wrote: > > Read this with the understanding that in the grand scheme of FreeBSD, I am > a complete nobody. I'm just a consumer of the product and run a couple > servers on it. I'm not a kernel hacker, or a source code god of any sort. > After following the discussion regarding the releases of product. > I am left <as a consumer>, wondering what is considered a sound product to > install on a machine. The frequency of CD releases leaves me wondering. > "well what was wrong in the last version they said was the next > kewlest thing". Was it hyped to much? was it a lie? And what is wrong with > a simple patch? I have machines running on 3.0 now that I am informed > should be upgraded to 3.1 ASAP. And 3.0 given the length of time it > has been out, would be considered NEW. I just would like to have a system > that I can install, and keep alive for a good period of time without every > person in every group answering my questions with "You need to upgrade > to the newest release". That is all fine and dandy for people that want > to track things closely. But, most people that use FreeBSD don't do > that. We are like any other consumer. Just wanting a product that will > withstand more than 3 months time. And is still supported on the site to > some extent. > Come to find out, after installing my systems via ftp. I can't get > a 3.0 CD anyplace. I called cdrom.com and they said they stoped carrying > it as soon as 3.1 came out. This leaves people like me hanging out to dry > and wondering why it is this way. And, I am either blind or correct in > saying that 3.0-RELEASE is not on the ftp.freebsd.com server any more. > This to a consumer is very disheartening. It's like buying a car and being > told a month later that "it's not all that was advertised the month > before. And oh by the way. We're not carrying that model anymore". > My question to anyone that would care to answer is this. > Is it advisable to upgrade my SMP machines that are running 3.0 to 3.1 or > do I wait for what is being called the fix for 3.1, 3.2 ? > It breaks some of the confidence in the product being used to read some of > these posts. To learn that the big hype of a product you just installed is > already being considered out of date and broken. Is 3.0 realy all that > bad? And if so, why was it ever considered for release? > Sorry if I ticked anyone off or spoke out of turn. Just would like some > stability in my OS of choice. I can't imagine what it must be like for > people even greener then me. > > Thank you. > Keith > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- bfoz@starfleet.umd.edu "In life there are those who steer, and those who push" "I'm not impatient, the world is too slow" "Life is short, so have fun, play hard, and leave a good looking corpse" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
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