From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 08:33:44 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A7E037B401; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 08:33:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30D1F43FB1; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 08:33:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.12.8/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h5BFXWkA021865; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 09:33:33 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 09:32:03 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20030611.093203.26943899.imp@bsdimp.com> To: grog@freebsd.org From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20030611075750.GB57496@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20030610124747.A7560@phantom.cris.net> <20030610024524.D23396@znfgre.qbhto.arg> <20030611075750.GB57496@wantadilla.lemis.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: ache@nagual.pp.ru cc: DougB@freebsd.org cc: phantom@FreeBSD.org.ua cc: arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: removing stale files X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 15:33:44 -0000 In message: <20030611075750.GB57496@wantadilla.lemis.com> "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" writes: : On Tuesday, 10 June 2003 at 2:53:09 -0700, Doug Barton wrote: : > On Tue, 10 Jun 2003, Alexey Zelkin wrote: : > : >> [moved to -arch] : >> : >> Well. Then I have to rehash $subj issue again. There's important : >> point with removing old (currently unsupported, or correctly to say : >> -- partly supported) locales. They should be removed at installworld : >> stage. : > : > I think that's a better way to do it. This same topic of removing stale : > files at installworld time has been discussed before, and it seems to be : > the least evil solution. : : Agreed. : : I think we should work towards a policy where we say "these : directories belong to the system. Don't install your own things there : until you know exactly what you are doing.". That would greatly : simplify the job of keeping things up to date. In the past, it has been suggested that there be a 'make rmobs' target or something similar. I'd strongly oppose a non-turn-off-able doing this as part of installworld. That's too dangerous. I've experimented with some automatically delete obsolete files schemes in the past, and there is *MUCH* potential for foot shooting and *** ******* to make it be on by default. NetBSD's approach in etcupdate is based on a master list of files that have gone away. Warner