From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 14:29:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5D9E106564A for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 14:29:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no) Received: from thalia-smout.broadpark.no (thalia-smout.broadpark.no [80.202.8.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 801868FC0C for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 14:29:26 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from terra-smin.broadpark.no ([80.202.8.13]) by thalia-smout.broadpark.no (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u3-15.01 64bit (built Feb 12 2010)) with ESMTP id <0LJ2009I7YX0G8B0@thalia-smout.broadpark.no> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 16:29:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from kg-v2.kg4.no ([84.48.120.215]) by terra-smin.broadpark.no (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u3-15.01 64bit (built Feb 12 2010)) with SMTP id <0LJ20023BYWZBPC0@terra-smin.broadpark.no> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 16:29:24 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 16:29:23 +0200 From: Torfinn Ingolfsen To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-id: <20110403162923.b4ae0ce9.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> In-reply-to: <4D986266.9060205@cran.org.uk> References: <87d3l6p5xv.fsf@cosmos.claresco.hr> <20110401154732.GC37730@ice.42.org> <4D986266.9060205@cran.org.uk> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.0 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) X-Face: "t9w2,-X@O^I`jVW\sonI3.,36KBLZE*AL[y9lL[PyFD*r_S:dIL9c[8Y>V42R0"!"yb_zN,f#%.[PYYNq; m"_0v; ~rUM2Yy!zmkh)3&U|u!=T(zyv,MHJv"nDH>OJ`t(@mil461d_B'Uo|'nMwlKe0Mv=kvV?Nh@>Hb<3s_z2jYgZhPb@?Wi^x1a~Hplz1.zH Subject: Re: Constant rebooting after power loss X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 14:29:26 -0000 On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 13:04:54 +0100 Bruce Cran wrote: > On 01/04/2011 16:47, Stefan `Sec` Zehl wrote: > > > If you want to get rid of the reboot loop, set: > > > > background_fsck="NO" > > > > Then it will either come up, or ask for help if anything fails. > > I realise that people like having systems that come up quickly after a > crash, but is it worth reconsidering disabling background fsck by > default since it can cause issues like this? Based _only_ on my own experience, and personal preference, I would say "NO". The reason? It works nicely the way it is now, and any problems will be noticed, and can be fixed with a bit of effort, even for a person with little experience in running FreeBSD machines. One of the reasons that I like FreeBSD is that it gives me tools I need, but it doesn't try to automate or abstract away my responsiblites as a system administrator. I think the FreeBSD project has managed something impressive; being a platform for bringing in new ideas / tools, and at the same time staying conservative (POLA, and well thought out changes). I like that. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen FreeBSD user & FreeBSD sysadmin on the personal / hobby level, for many, many years