From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 26 10:03:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 416FF37B401 for ; Sat, 26 Apr 2003 10:03:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E8BF43F3F for ; Sat, 26 Apr 2003 10:03:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.no-ip.com) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (lowellg.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.147.188.198]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01) with ESMTP id <2003042617034900100e4dq7e>; Sat, 26 Apr 2003 17:03:49 +0000 Received: from be-well.ilk.org (lowellg.ne.client2.attbi.com [24.147.188.198] (may be forged)) by be-well.ilk.org (8.12.9/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h3QH3mPN088846; Sat, 26 Apr 2003 13:03:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.no-ip.com) Received: (from lowell@localhost) by be-well.ilk.org (8.12.9/8.12.6/Submit) id h3QH3mEO088843; Sat, 26 Apr 2003 13:03:48 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: be-well.ilk.org: lowell set sender to freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org using -f Sender: lowell@be-well.no-ip.com To: Kirk Strauser References: <20030424214413.GC90097@grimoire.chen.org.nz> <20030425091950.GA558@dhumketu.homeunix.net> <3EA92FF1.30809@potentialtech.com> <20030425184813.GA674@dhumketu.homeunix.net> <448ytye5xj.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <3EA9925E.30201@potentialtech.com> <20030425203301.GU45035@dan.emsphone.com> <3EA9D2EC.3040304@potentialtech.com> <20030426010835.GB5143@dan.emsphone.com> <3EA9EDF4.9000702@potentialtech.com> <20030426024616.GF5143@dan.emsphone.com> <87of2t8f3a.fsf@pooh.honeypot.net> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 26 Apr 2003 13:03:47 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87of2t8f3a.fsf@pooh.honeypot.net> Message-ID: <447k9hnqbw.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 21 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Time Problem in 5.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 17:03:51 -0000 Kirk Strauser writes: > At 2003-04-26T02:46:16Z, Dan Nelson writes: > > > But ntpdate does serve a useful purpose during bootup. > > Dan, something I've always wondered about: if a machine runs ntpd during > normal operation and is rebooted mainly for periodic maintenance, wouldn't > it's hardware clock be accurate to within a few fractions of a second during > the downtime? I mean, if my clock it NTP-correct at noon, and I reboot the > machine to do a `make installworld', it will be pretty close to accurate > when I bring it back online. Since ntpd launches instantly when not in `-q' > mode, what's the advantage or point of running ntpdate on boot? Why not > just start ntpd as normal and let it smooth over the small amount of drift? Yep. For cases where the drift isn't small, though, it's important. Some examples: machines without a working real-time clock, dual-boot machines that have had the time adjusted incorrectly by another operating system, machines where the real-time clock had been stepped on in the last boot...