From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 7 20:50:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD8F31065676; Wed, 7 Jul 2010 20:50:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xcllnt@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout023.mac.com (asmtpout023.mac.com [17.148.16.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF10D8FC17; Wed, 7 Jul 2010 20:50:50 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Received: from macbook-pro.lan.xcllnt.net (mail.xcllnt.net [75.101.29.67]) by asmtp023.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0L5700LUFGK7TI00@asmtp023.mac.com>; Wed, 07 Jul 2010 13:50:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1004200000 definitions=main-1007070094 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=1.12.8161:2.4.5,1.2.40,4.0.166 definitions=2010-07-07_03:2010-02-06, 2010-07-07, 2010-07-07 signatures=0 From: Marcel Moolenaar In-reply-to: Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2010 13:50:30 -0700 Message-id: <779BFD8C-962A-4577-B794-6AE2B946F4DF@mac.com> References: <4C34C5DE.7040007@aldan.algebra.com> <20100707185928.GA16180@icarus.home.lan> <4C34E0E6.9070801@aldan.algebra.com> To: Randi Harper X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Cc: "Mikhail T." , Jeremy Chadwick , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, tom@hur.st, freebsd-usb@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 8.x grudges X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2010 20:50:50 -0000 On Jul 7, 2010, at 1:34 PM, Randi Harper wrote: >> Well, pardon the political pun, but I don't believe in change for the sake >> of change. These particular changes are gratuitous. If sio is no longer >> available -- and replaced by uart, why change the /dev-entries?.. > > These changes aren't gratuitous. Did you read the commit messages > behind each of the changes? I'm guessing that you haven't. Not to mention that if you change uart(4) to create dev entries like sio(4) after uart(4) has been in the tree for more than 6 years creating ttyu* entries, you actually introduce a gratuitous change. It's all about perspective... -- Marcel Moolenaar xcllnt@mac.com