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RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[69.168.97.78:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2021 11:49:10 -0000 Polytropon writes: > With the upcoming solution to have "pkg base" on FreeBSD, i. e., > everything will be packaged and distributed via pkg (cf. Linux > packaging: "the kernel is a package"), the problem will probably > go away. It's just important that a precompiled package works > with the kernel currently running, so building from source is > not needed. However, making the graphics drivers become a part > of the kernel ("kernel package"), just like sound drivers or > network drivers are part of the kernel, would definitely be > a welcome idea (even though it should not interfere with using > FreeBSD for non-desktop systems not requiring graphics support, > so making it somehow optional to _load_ them would be nice). For me, compiling from source is less stressful than worrying whether everything matches and the upgrade process works. I also use a (slightly) custom kernel configuration .... > > (On my to-do list is upgrading one system from a Radeon HD 3300 > > to something (AMD) that uses GCN. After weeks of research I > > think\\\\\hope I've found the right answer ....) > > It's either amdgpu or radeondrm. ;-) Well, duh. :-) The majority of future development work will go into the amdgpu driver. Therefore it makes sense to move away from radeonkms. Amdgpu requires a chipset that uses GCN (any version, right?). According to my research, the first product to use GCN is the Radeon HD 7730. Or maybe not: I can find nothing definitive from AMD/ATI, and third-party sources (including FreeBSD-specific ones) are either vague or contradictory. And on a limited budget, it matters. The price of a 7450 is less than half the price of a 7970. Respectfully, Robert Huff -- Hello ... my name is SARS-CoV-2. You are not wearing a mask? Prepare to die!