From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 22 12:37:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hackers@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7F1716A41F for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 12:37:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from thin.berklix.org (thin.berklix.org [194.246.123.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 740C413C45E for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 12:37:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from js.berklix.net (p549A7C81.dip.t-dialin.net [84.154.124.129]) (authenticated bits=128) by thin.berklix.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l5MCbZka042712; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 14:37:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by js.berklix.net (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l5MCbGtT018876; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 14:37:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost.js.berklix.net [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l5MCbGKb097211; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 14:37:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <200706221237.l5MCbGKb097211@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Bert JW Regeer In-reply-to: References: <4676BAF0.4030703@gmail.com> <20070618180813.GA13003@eos.sc1.parodius.com> <322073cc0706181415o17ecd532i971d8bdf5ea1dafd@mail.gmail.com> <20070618221022.GA17952@eos.sc1.parodius.com> <868xadj651.fsf@dwp.des.no> <200706220124.l5M1Otob089313@fire.js.berklix.net> Comments: In-reply-to Bert JW Regeer message dated "Fri, 22 Jun 2007 01:46:27 -0700." Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 14:37:16 +0200 From: "Julian H. Stacey" Cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: i386 with PAE or AMD64 on PowerEdge with 4G RAM X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 12:37:47 -0000 Bert JW Regeer wrote: > --Apple-Mail-2-183841032 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset=US-ASCII; > delsp=yes; > format=flowed > On Jun 21, 2007, at 6:24 PM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: You broke the header, sending 2 seperate mails with same content, so I've copied the reply I sent to what I first saw as your private mail: > > A while back I reverted my AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+ > > (2010.06-MHz 686-class CPU) from 64 to 32 bit, 'cos of bad ports. > > ls /var/db/pkg | wc -l # 536 Not that I use them all, they just > > accumulate. FreeBSD is as solid as damp cement on many old laptops > > ( http://berklix.org/~jhs/hardware/laptops/ ) ie doesn't install > > beyond > > 4.11. No time for ports pain as well as base install failures. > > Eh? I would like to contest this statement. I own several old > Thinkpads, an Toshiba Portege and NONE of them have had any problems > what so ever. My Toshiba is running -CURRENT without any issues what > so ever. Damp cement? WTH? 5 out of 6 of mine have not wanted to go beyond 4.11 : PCMCIA, PLIP etc Just one ruuns 6.2. FreeBSD 5 & 6 have been a nightmare of more functionality at expense of breaking machines. 4.11 actually installs & runs see http://berklix.org/~jhs/hardware/laptops/ -- Julian Stacey. Munich Computer Consultant, BSD Unix C Linux. http://berklix.com HTML mail unseen. Ihr Rauch=mein allergischer Kopfschmerz. Dump cigs 4 snuff.