From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 11 03:07:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 358B116A4D0 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 03:07:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 684CF43D48 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 03:07:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Shadow333@gmx.at) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 11 Feb 2005 03:07:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO there) (62.218.246.180) by mail.gmx.net (mp007) with SMTP; 11 Feb 2005 04:07:23 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1027147 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Oliver Leitner Organization: none To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Anthony Atkielski Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 04:01:53 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <200502091349.00708.algould@datawok.com> <73252383.20050210233441@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <73252383.20050210233441@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Message-Id: <20050211030725.684CF43D48@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: Logo Contest X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 03:07:26 -0000 for answering a discussion about a logo contest youre taking a quite wide turn, dont you guys think? On Thursday 10 February 2005 23:34, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Garance A Drosihn writes: > > You've never heard of a startup firm? Perhaps a startup made of > > recent college graduates? They might not "kill" for the chance, > > but if they do have some spare time they might find this an > > attractive project to spend some time on. > > People who want to make money don't do freebies. A very common mistake > made by artists going into business is giving away work for free, under > the misconception that this will somehow lead to paying business. In > reality, it just leads to requests for more freebies, or to nothing at > all. > > Thus, serious artists are going to expect to be paid money. > > > Uh, the same could be said for programming. So why are you using > > an open-source operating system which is largely supported by people > > who are NOT paid to work on it? And who give it away for Free? > > These are people who earn a living by other means. Nobody who doesn't > have other sources of income writes software for free. > > > Listen, if all we come up with is crappy logo submissions, then > > we won't actually switch to any new logo. We're just trying to > > see what people *can* come up with, and maybe reward them a little > > bit for making the effort. > > No problem with that. But don't assume that any professionals (or > professional-level artists) will jump forward and give you free work for > the hypothetical "exposure." FreeBSD doesn't have anything remotely > near the kind of exposure that would be useful for a graphic artist, > even were he willing to give away his work for free. Not only is the > FreeBSD community relatively quite small, but the people who do see the > work would not be potential customers. -- By reading this mail you agree to the following: using or giving out the email address and any other info of the author of this email is strictly forbidden. By acting against this agreement the author of this mail will take possible legal actions against the abuse.