From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 14 02:08:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8B8E16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 02:08:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87F9F43D45 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 02:08:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (net4801-2 [192.168.254.1]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F202B4B4B5; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 03:04:30 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 03:04:29 +0100 From: cpghost@cordula.ws To: Matthias Buelow Message-ID: <20050214020429.GA46706@fw.farid-hajji.net> References: <420A6465.30402@sbcglobal.net> <20050209202922.GA18393@fw.farid-hajji.net> <420FFACC.2020403@incubus.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <420FFACC.2020403@incubus.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: sp0ng3b0b cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.org cc: Charles-Andr? Landemaine Subject: Re: Please don't change Beastie to another crap logo such as NetBSD!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 02:08:37 -0000 On Mon, Feb 14, 2005 at 02:11:40AM +0100, Matthias Buelow wrote: > cpghost@cordula.ws wrote: > > >Nope. Beastie is a way of life. I'd be quite upset if it were dropped > >for whatever reason. It is so intimately tied to FreeBSD that it would > >be a PR disaster if it were to be changed. NetBSD never had a real > > The BSD daemon image stems from around 4.3BSD, or an even earlier > release, not FreeBSD. It can therefore never be specific for the > FreeBSD system, in the same way Ronald McDonald doesn't stand for the > Big Mac alone, but rather for the entire company. In earlier years, > before the general hype about Linux and *BSD, I've seen the image being > used in presentations about Unix in general. [Redirected from -questions to -advocacy] True. Beastie has a venerable tradition, and FreeBSD just upheld it. I too have a lot of CDs, buttons, t-shirts and printouts pre-dating FreeBSD *and* Jolitz' 386BSD which show the little devil. Kirk presents also some old renditions of Beastie, even one from 4.2BSD: http://www.mckusick.com/beastie/shirts/bsdunix.html http://www.mckusick.com/beastie/mainpage/images.html Sadly, NetBSD switched to a meaningless flag logo, and OpenBSD's Puffy is hardly a daemon (though it is cute in its own way). This leaves FreeBSD as the only OS that still uses Beastie as a way to characterize itself. It would be a shame to select a de-beastyfied say-nothing logo. Cheers, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/