From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 23 22:08:09 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70717B54F8 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 22:08:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wm1-x329.google.com (mail-wm1-x329.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::329]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 71E1680AB3 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 22:08:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by mail-wm1-x329.google.com with SMTP id f17so39764905wme.2 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 15:08:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=S9ncvFbPbnKPFrvDL4MkLyDfBTKGSRkh46eiMCHMy+0=; b=X/Ranz5bE0favYpWVEAkH9tvAiVv4O7FCS7HTLv3OJZroNgF4HtXqlqRS4BK98zxUc fI5KXronOOGM1kLLXfBmIoRuAsHTdT7NgOHqyQK+FXXd0YidnXKADu5Szn/7U/HOazIF 6LuMEPt51Qyqq0q7MmT7Vdwj7aBbdZwb8ee1BonbEXjdN5146WwwEisNvL9ct9xRSJQI 7sLhftPAWC/G7mm6IvGcXN2hA6QxHWBywMZHnaaj8O057m0lxvc8hjGueyaVkVHpIwc+ IkXK93xS6ZUWiId/K+JiWkWG4DKVbbRi9EE9rTfyqP+EZWPK6f/eES7+JPCC423aKfNg HzMQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXNTj3nCesix1+uDd42+JhKzBU65o8IxQiSjhd5SsCJ9gonxx7H yXwH4qy8Yf0e/g0vaywZIe+N42qtkWo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzaJ39GCKcR9Kt+hjUMZpMhs6QGo9PqCyUlS9YWsV5c+WqA+A+yyqVv7aPzmBg3nM4vP2Ul3Q== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:be05:: with SMTP id o5mr71612554wmf.52.1563919687239; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 15:08:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com ([2.124.155.157]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v124sm46708199wmf.23.2019.07.23.15.08.06 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=AEAD-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 23 Jul 2019 15:08:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 23:08:04 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Best hardware for a replacement desktop? Message-ID: <20190723230804.7beedad2@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: References: <5ceb24c1-66ce-2603-5eed-78283d9676b7@holgerdanske.com> <23861.63968.885139.970960@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <1618173539.5511975.1563822072600@mail.yahoo.com> <1125579496.1306494.1563881223475@mail.yahoo.com> <20190723173126.2a26ee26@archlinux> <20190723221938.28a62565@gumby.homeunix.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.3 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 71E1680AB3 X-Spamd-Bar: ----- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.94 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[googlemail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[googlemail.com,quarantine]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.988,0]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[157.155.124.2.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[googlemail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[googlemail.com:s=20161025]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[9.2.3.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(-2.94)[ip: (-9.24), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.98), asn: 15169(-2.44), country: US(-0.05)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 22:08:09 -0000 On Tue, 23 Jul 2019 17:31:21 -0400 Aryeh Friedman wrote: > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 5:19 PM RW via freebsd-questions < > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> wrote: > > My understanding is that you only need to load nvidia-modeset.ko in > > loader.conf, and nvidia.ko will get loaded as a side effect. Are you > > saying that's wrong? > > > > Yes: > > nvidia-modeset_load="YES" > > Will *NOT* load it correctly (it will not find the card in the device > probe) *BUT*: > > nvidia_load="YES" > nvidia-modeset_load="YES" > > works fine (about twice as fast performance also). It does seem to use less cpu time. What's strange is that mplayer claims it's using vdpau either way.