From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 11 10:42:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4E6D80 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 10:42:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from clbuisson@orange.fr) Received: from smtp.smtpout.orange.fr (smtp06.smtpout.orange.fr [80.12.242.128]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D47DF8FC14 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 10:42:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([92.156.226.70]) by mwinf5d29 with ME id 9miM1k00e1Xloy403miMST; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 12:42:22 +0200 Message-ID: <5076A28D.509@orange.fr> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 12:42:21 +0200 From: Claude Buisson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:10.0.7) Gecko/20120831 Thunderbird/10.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glen Barber Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10-CURRENT and 9-STABLE snapshots References: <50717D35.7040106@affle.com> <1349727367645-5750424.post@n5.nabble.com> <50754E24.4040903@orange.fr> <1349873186577-5750838.post@n5.nabble.com> <5075AA96.6050101@orange.fr> <20121011000901.GK10429@glenbarber.us> <50761430.8090306@orange.fr> <20121011005218.GM10429@glenbarber.us> In-Reply-To: <20121011005218.GM10429@glenbarber.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 10:42:24 -0000 On 10/11/2012 02:52, Glen Barber wrote: > On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 02:34:56AM +0200, Claude Buisson wrote: >>> FWIW, you can compile the svn binary elsewhere, statically linked, and >>> save the dependency problem by copying the resulting binary around. >>> >> >> Lucky people who have an "elsewhere". >> >> And the static binary is as much bloated than the dynamic ones. >> >> Compare it with this poor csup, which gave great services for a small price. >> > > Agreed on all counts. > > For what it is worth, my response was really geared with the mindset of > having a cluster of machines to administer, where having the extra > (sometimes unnecessary) dependencies of svn are not ideal and/or can > conflict with other software. I understood that. At a time I have been in that situation, but to be there I had to "sell" the use of FreeBSD at my $WORK, and started with a single machine and limited ressources. So the existence of a cluster even for people doing real production work with FreeBSD is not a given. > > As mentioned in today's earlier announcement for 9.1-RC2, however, CVS > backporting from SVN will continue to be done for the stable/9 branch. > > Hopefully that buys some time for svnup to become reality. > One of the starting point of this thread have been that according to cvsweb, there does not seem to have been any update of releng7, releng8, and releng9 at least since October 5 or 6, which is confirmed by cvsup1.fr.freebsd.org (I have just done the test for releng8). So something is not working somewhere, and someone may ask "do somebody care about it ?" The problem with svnsup is that it had to be a prerequisite, and had not be. > Glen > Sorry to have started so long a thread. I asked essentially the same questions about cvs/csup/mirrors, etc more than a year ago without real answer.. Claude Buisson