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Subject: Re: fastforwarding? 
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Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 11:37:37 -0700
From: Bakul Shah <bakul@bitblocks.com>
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> This discussion has devolved into yet another idiotic bikeshed.  Nobody 
> claimed anwhere along the line that fastforwarding was a solution to
> all routing ills, suitable for use in a core router, or acceptable for
> any of the wildly esoteric CRAP espoused in the past 10 or 12 messages
> in this thread.  If you don't like fastforwarding, don't use it, but 
> don't get in the way of people who use it and maintain it.

I don't think you realize that as implemented it is not
suitable for *any* router with even a single host that will
send to hundreds of thousands of distinct ip addresses over
any period of time.  It doesn't matter if all the router has
is a single default route in its route table because it
creates a new cache entry for *every* destination address to
which it successfully forwards a packet.  Consider

    H ---- R ----> internet

R, a freebsd machine running fastforwarding code, has a
single default route to an upstream machine.  Now on H
all you have to do is something like

	<init msg>
	a = <initial host addr>
	while (a++) {
		to.sin_addr.s_addr = htonl(a);
		sendto(s, msg, msglen, 0, (struct sockaddr*)&to, sizeof to);
	}

and R's cache will be filled up real quick.

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