From nobody Sat Oct 28 21:53:47 2023 X-Original-To: stable@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4SHtbC39npz4y560 for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2023 21:53:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dufresnep@zoho.com) Received: from sender3-pp-o99.zoho.com (sender3-pp-o99.zoho.com [136.143.184.99]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4SHtb957YVz4Ybj for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2023 21:53:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dufresnep@zoho.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=zoho.com header.s=zm2022 header.b=OoX2cKA7; arc=pass ("zohomail.com:s=zohoarc:i=1"); spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dufresnep@zoho.com designates 136.143.184.99 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=dufresnep@zoho.com; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=zoho.com ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1698530033; cv=none; d=zohomail.com; s=zohoarc; b=K76p1kSCaZimgmnhtiCshvYLgj9wSagZn/5ANTQAlzx1r3RUyr+JHG+pf1en/+xXqqd77kDF23gY6lSJ9Z+CMLrSffKsoBkUvX9yQfJOJwoU0d08rzYfDTNJS+eAUMbAleQELRgUz3CScM37udRObYQ3ASrrtSWvM694TGSXlLU= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zohomail.com; s=zohoarc; t=1698530033; h=Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Date:Date:From:From:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Subject:Subject:To:To:Message-Id:Reply-To:Cc; bh=a1VthXj29lWUTUrOCs7x6dac6JKt+LrLerNITFRE914=; b=REDtJ1ATxZ+Ql2GywMcm6gWgPS25ZBSaJbVYLAl4HWRhzXlGgDiOTJh18q4/0MnkjZUChDAGjMKJtN/rmpvEqeXEzeUNtpeulZGk3uFXUu6Ly9XhyCLxbJ49YwxorNv4NYGiXZAYhX7orQ3mTIkEOEm0sXIgoD2e5TBf3nBR+G4= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.zohomail.com; dkim=pass header.i=zoho.com; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=dufresnep@zoho.com; dmarc=pass header.from= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1698530033; s=zm2022; d=zoho.com; i=dufresnep@zoho.com; h=Date:Date:From:From:To:To:Message-ID:Subject:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Feedback-ID:Message-Id:Reply-To:Cc; bh=a1VthXj29lWUTUrOCs7x6dac6JKt+LrLerNITFRE914=; b=OoX2cKA7OFMm2WHOYLffBlkoKEYy27Pyt+h/slGDP7G/eNOeXlJg5Pg2AMjAqq8b 14Zw6PCy9a2UXsW2qvZJp0m3QzMmj82NuwkFaMxoGu91FpD5SyFNUPh8UxvOCfM4lSz 3z0uzF1zDzi+Kb3n2/JUkTx1Xn2BAgogPzq9DYbc= Received: from mail.zoho.com by mx.zohomail.com with SMTP id 1698530027813332.67364700337464; Sat, 28 Oct 2023 14:53:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [66.129.153.16] by mail.zoho.com with HTTP;Sat, 28 Oct 2023 14:53:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2023 17:53:47 -0400 From: Paul Dufresne To: "stable" Message-ID: <18b78476914.e31ef40044402.789687992348441821@zoho.com> Subject: So much longer to update than install fresh (+ no install feedback) List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-stable List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Importance: Medium User-Agent: Zoho Mail X-Mailer: Zoho Mail Feedback-ID: rr080112284368f431aa106f127a1611f90000ef2c7ac97039553330c8697d66f536cb4b8bc97aeb1dc7ca71e9:zu080112274904bebd39a016c625ebc2230000dec0435fd25c6d012d2012d95252e2c1abb9fc989802282352:rf0801123211770d2eef79170fff1fc51e000095c62fcabe8ff5159ef3265bf8d8af5dd3639697b6eebc2196be4f4ff4c74786a4e13742:ZohoMail X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.99 / 15.00]; ARC_ALLOW(-1.00)[zohomail.com:s=zohoarc:i=1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.999]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[zoho.com,reject]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[zoho.com:s=zm2022]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:136.143.184.0/24]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[136.143.184.99:from]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[stable@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[136.143.184.99:from]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[zoho.com:+]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[zoho.com]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[zoho.com:dkim]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:2639, ipnet:136.143.184.0/24, country:US]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[zoho.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4SHtb957YVz4Ybj X-Spamd-Bar: ---- I realized that my previous message was a bit not precise. So, armed with the knowledge that "freebsd-update install" generally finish, I reinstalled 13.2 (which felt like 5 to 7 mins, did not clocked). Was zfs default install (without ssh server). Then I updated the 44 patches for 13.2, then rebooted. I then used "/usr/bin/time -h freebsd-update -r 14.0-BETA1 upgrade" to clock it (/usr/bin is necessary, else an internal time command is used, -h=humanly readable). It took a bit less than 20 mins to get the 10750 patches, apply them, and then get the 1309 files. Then the "/usr/bin/time -h freebsd-update install" before the reboot took 35.4 seconds. And then the "usr/bin/time -h freebsd-update install" after the reboot took: 42m49s (1m20s user, 1m27s sys). My hardware is a i3-8100 with a Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 of 250 Gbytes. So about 1h to get the first step from 13.2 to 14.0 (still needs Beta2, Beta3, Beta4, Beta5, rc1, rc2 and rc3 to be done). Again... first point is that seems so much slower than a fresh install, second, really not much feedback during install phase of the upgrade.