From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 8 11:27:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BF66106564A for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 11:27:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@vizion2000.net) Received: from dns1.vizion2000.net (77-99-36-42.cable.ubr04.chap.blueyonder.co.uk [77.99.36.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6FFB8FC13 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 11:27:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@vizion2000.net) Received: by dns1.vizion2000.net (Postfix, from userid 1007) id 170F81CC26; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 04:51:26 -0700 (PDT) From: David Southwell Organization: Voice and Vision To: Wojciech Puchar Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 04:51:25 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <200809080436.41021.david@vizion2000.net> <20080908131544.V27701@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20080908131544.V27701@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200809080451.25774.david@vizion2000.net> Cc: Giorgos Keramidas , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Postfix issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 11:27:28 -0000 On Monday 08 September 2008 04:19:11 Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > I do not like the fact that a number of governments (including most > > european ones) now have the right to access all emails that pass through > > an ISP's > > only if you use big operators. All UK operators are "big operators and covered by this -- if you provide internet access you jhave to give government access!! > > > BIG BROTHER is watching far too much. Frankly I am surprised that > > we have democracy. in democracy majority decides for everybody. > majority wanted it for "they own good". minority has to shut up or go > away. A democracy that does not respect minority rights including civil liberties is not a democracy but an authoritarian state. > > > Another emerging issue is cable operators refusing to allow fixed IP > > address so they can receive revenue from reporting on user usage data. > > could you please tell more about the sentence above. maybe it's my bad > english but i don't understand. why constantly changing user IP could help > reporting user data and getting revenue? They keep track of who is connected by using hardware info and by use of login security. > > > This movement to commercialise the internet and limit access in this way > > is deplorable when there are alternative methods of dealing with > > legitimate > > even now we are more restricted than people in China, where they have > "chinese internet" with very very limited access to outside, but withing > chinese internet there are very little limits. Whether anyone else is more or less affected is irrelevant. I would not want to sanction state executions in my own country because state executions are permitted in either USA or China or Iran or Iraq!! Neither would I want to approve breaches of civil liberties because there are breaches in Chine. David