From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 3 19:01:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CEA7B98 for ; Fri, 3 May 2013 19:01:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dieterbsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-x22a.google.com (mail-ie0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22a]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 473F41E35 for ; Fri, 3 May 2013 19:01:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f170.google.com with SMTP id aq17so2239730iec.29 for ; Fri, 03 May 2013 12:01:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=MfChLLHwplTvilIKFUKneOqcFepJflN0EfDRh+xeqNM=; b=sP2MZAR4oE7I7tpnfiBm4ZG/aeG1FAfc5P2RfRyW46KoZMixgePQRDsxogb9I15FDA WgqRqjIPeNtNYK2cSf3suuGFn0fqxj1bfrexY2QsFk9HBKnMKABCD2PBZ//HjlA6wmEb Absb9vlWvTl4uqQkz7bNSQqN15/dIK+VGsv0p9QbYR/0pt7MqxjkKR1IPZccvSnDK1Aa j8vXh61U3jJQy0HM84lb1479syRdHbs+bhkcS4PWc/+/atnNaEUTfzC3mFiA6PGufO0W X19ndvYZhNsVpEr9SNb4Osu8cNo6omledJSd5N4Pihfo7zdxNMSp8zcGwPGnyoBYCO+r mQ8Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.66.162 with SMTP id g2mr17163091igt.84.1367607670933; Fri, 03 May 2013 12:01:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.7.211 with HTTP; Fri, 3 May 2013 12:01:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 3 May 2013 12:01:10 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: ladmins that cannot type a command From: Dieter BSD To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 May 2013 19:01:11 -0000 >> good for today and future ladmins that cannot type a command. >> >> Any USEFUL proposals that add some real functionality? > > Since this will enable more people to run FreeBSD that otherwise > wouldn't give it a second glance, I would say it is VERY useful. Really? How useful is FreeBSD going to be to someone who cannot type? Who is the target here? Idiots? People without fingers? I see lots of chatter about adding new stuff, much of which is ... rather questionable. Meanwhile many of the features FreeBSD already has are broken. No shortage of PRs that need fixing. Many of these PRs have been sitting around, unloved, for *years*. Some of them even contain patches (that *work*)! If you're building a race car, make sure the engine runs before spending your time polishing the wheels.