From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 14 01:33:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A259106566B for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 01:33:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) Received: from vps.rulingia.com (host-122-100-2-194.octopus.com.au [122.100.2.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE10A8FC08 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 01:33:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.rulingia.com (c220-239-249-137.belrs5.nsw.optusnet.com.au [220.239.249.137]) by vps.rulingia.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q8E16X51083774 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 14 Sep 2012 11:06:34 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) X-Bogosity: Ham, spamicity=0.000000 Received: from server.rulingia.com (localhost.rulingia.com [127.0.0.1]) by server.rulingia.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q8E16RRP037402 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 14 Sep 2012 11:06:27 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter@server.rulingia.com) Received: (from peter@localhost) by server.rulingia.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q8E16PEJ037400; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 11:06:25 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 11:06:25 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: "Julian H. Stacey" Message-ID: <20120914010625.GD15659@server.rulingia.com> References: <86har3sddc.fsf@ds4.des.no> <201209131249.q8DCnKe6061075@fire.js.berklix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201209131249.q8DCnKe6061075@fire.js.berklix.net> X-PGP-Key: http://www.rulingia.com/keys/peter.pgp User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Removing CVS from HEAD X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 01:33:36 -0000 --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2012-Sep-13 14:49:20 +0200, "Julian H. Stacey" wrote: >=3D?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=3DC3=3DB8rgrav?=3D wrote: >> Which other Unices provide CVS out of the box? I notice you've carefully avoided answering this. >DES hyperbole discarded, CVS would be just one more issue just for some. The hyperbole here is coming from you, not des@. >Some might agressively pitch for a short timescale, but if CVS goes, >FreeBSD will hopefuly look beyond just its developers' group, remember its >users, & consider a schedule similar to one a OS software manager would. CVS is a development tool and the version in FreeBSD base was intended for FreeBSD development. People using CVS for other purposes are unlikely to be best served by using an unmaintained and modified variant of an obsolete version of CVS. As for the schedule, as has been repeatedly stated, this change will only affect 10.x and later. If this proposal goes ahead, the first FreeBSD release to not have CVS in the base will be 10.0-RELEASE - which (IMHO) is unlikely to appear for another year. And 9.x will continue to include CVS in the base and should be supported for at least 2 years after 10.0-RELEASE comes out. Thus, anyone currently relying on the base CVS has at least 3 years to plan their transition. --=20 Peter Jeremy --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAlBSgxEACgkQ/opHv/APuIcuyQCcCU2xs4XLQdDOoBJ5y46DfFbf nX8AnizfVDIJjzlZj9HoyiRGxleW96ZH =Dxpf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z--