From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 1 02:47:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 194E616A4DD; Fri, 1 Sep 2006 02:47:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dwc@stilyagin.com) Received: from puffy.asicommunications.com (puffy.asicommunications.com [216.9.200.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD48343D4C; Fri, 1 Sep 2006 02:47:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dwc@stilyagin.com) Received: from zloy.stilyagin.com (71-35-25-152.phnx.qwest.net [71.35.25.152]) by puffy.asicommunications.com (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k812gNYm017138 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 31 Aug 2006 19:42:24 -0700 (MST) Received: (from dwc@localhost) by zloy.stilyagin.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k812gHTc022948; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 19:42:17 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 19:42:17 -0700 From: Darrin Chandler To: Miod Vallat Message-ID: <20060901024217.GP20373@zloy.stilyagin.com> References: <98f5a8830608301731s2b0663e3g94b0bd32f8a06a78@mail.gmail.com> <950621ad0608310654h78ae0023g346abd108815ae72@mail.gmail.com> <20060831110112.J82634@hub.org> <20060831184715.B82634@hub.org> <44F7619B.8010609@evilkittens.org> <20060831192632.T82634@hub.org> <20060831225719.GG25515@ribeyre.gentiane.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060831225719.GG25515@ribeyre.gentiane.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: misc@openbsd.org, Gilles Chehade , "Marc G. Fournier" , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, netbsd-users@NetBSD.org, miros-discuss@mirbsd.org Subject: Re: The future of NetBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 02:47:39 -0000 On Thu, Aug 31, 2006 at 10:57:20PM +0000, Miod Vallat wrote: > > I'd rather have Adaptec provide a source code driver for their cards > > directly, then have Scott Long have to fight with unavailability of > > documentation itself ... if the driver works, what do we need > > documentation for? > > To fix the driver. > > A given piece of source code can only been believed correct until it is > proven to be broken (unless you're Knuth, but he did not write device > drivers). Even Knuth: "Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it." -DEK -- Darrin Chandler | Phoenix BSD Users Group dwchandler@stilyagin.com | http://bsd.phoenix.az.us/ http://www.stilyagin.com/ |