From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 16 11:33:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEBEB16A469; Sat, 16 Jun 2007 11:33:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sziszi@bsd.hu) Received: from mail.rubicom.hu (mail.rubicom.hu [89.147.64.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4275F13C465; Sat, 16 Jun 2007 11:33:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sziszi@bsd.hu) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mail.rubicom.hu) by mail.rubicom.hu with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1HzVs4-0005jH-M0; Sat, 16 Jun 2007 12:51:08 +0200 Received: from baranyfelhocske.buza.adamsfamily.xx (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baranyfelhocske.buza.adamsfamily.xx (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l5GAovUx003639; Sat, 16 Jun 2007 12:50:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sziszi@bsd.hu) Received: (from sziszi@localhost) by baranyfelhocske.buza.adamsfamily.xx (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l5GAovjG003638; Sat, 16 Jun 2007 12:50:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sziszi@bsd.hu) X-Authentication-Warning: baranyfelhocske.buza.adamsfamily.xx: sziszi set sender to sziszi@bsd.hu using -f Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 12:50:57 +0200 From: Szilveszter Adam To: cvs-all@freebsd.org, cvs-ports@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070616105057.GA1440@baranyfelhocske.buza.adamsfamily.xx> Mail-Followup-To: Szilveszter Adam , cvs-all@freebsd.org, cvs-ports@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org References: <200706151319.l5FDJ3ZT002340@repoman.freebsd.org> <20070615135952.GE19707@voodoo.bawue.com> <20070615154408.GH19707@voodoo.bawue.com> <20070615161931.GB79551@FreeBSD.org> <4672BF95.4080400@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4672BF95.4080400@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.14 (2007-02-12) Cc: Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/games/ppracer Makefile pkg-descr X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 11:33:58 -0000 [Not to comment on the substance, just one nit] On Fri, Jun 15, 2007 at 06:34:29PM +0200, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: > There are no non-committers reading ports-committers. The > ports-committers list is a private list for those ones, who are in > CVSROOT/access for the ports repo. Similarly doc-committers and > src-committers serve in the same way but for the doc and src repos. Gabor, maybe you haven't noticed but these messages also go to (for example) the cvs-all@ list, which *is* a public list and read by non-committers as well. For example, if you run -CURRENT (as I do) you are even *expected* (and rightly so) to read the cvs-* lists to know what is coming your way, because it is not possible to calculate all risks of a particular commit beforehand, so it cannot be expected that UPDATING will tell you everything you need to know. Likewise, for ports, it is a good idea to actually follow the ports commits (even on -STABLE) so that you see which ports actually changed (and which merely had their portrevision bumped for other reasons) and what dependencies you should consider when upgrading a port even if their portrevision was *not* bumped so automatic tools do not notice them. Both situations occur with some likelihood and reading the ports commit logs helps in both cases. Oh, and one more thing: reading the cvs-* lists is also good for deciding *when* to update your sources/ports, because that way you can see when a larger set of commits has been finished or simply, when the rate of commits has decreased sufficiently for a while (eg during the nighttime in the US) to not miss anything significant while doing the update. So, if the reviews only happened on the respective *-committers lists, I think no non-committers would complain. -- Regards: Szilveszter ADAM Budapest Hungary