From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Feb 28 6:22:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from post-20.mail.nl.demon.net (post-20.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6732337B400 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 06:22:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.238.194.207] (helo=mailhost.raggedclown.net) by post-20.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #2) id 16gRSO-000J6D-00 for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 14:22:52 +0000 Received: from angel.raggedclown.net (angel.raggedclown.intra [192.168.1.7]) by mailhost.raggedclown.net (Ragged Clown Mail Gateway [buffy]) with ESMTP id F30F113040 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 15:22:51 +0100 (CET) Received: by angel.raggedclown.net (Ragged Clown Host [angel], from userid 1005) id EE681225C1; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 15:22:49 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 15:22:49 +0100 From: Cliff Sarginson To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: First test of GPL in court Message-ID: <20020228142249.GB1805@raggedclown.net> References: <20020227135103.E64839@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20020227061336.N12253@rain.macguire.net> <20020227142303.A65635@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <15484.63760.663944.125557@guru.mired.org> <20020227163501.A66574@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <15485.4354.561280.729573@guru.mired.org> <20020228020025.B65094@titus.hanley.stade.co.uk> <15485.40778.433515.165006@guru.mired.org> <20020228070237.GI3311@raggedclown.net> <15485.55616.947697.70199@guru.mired.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <15485.55616.947697.70199@guru.mired.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 01:16:16AM -0600, Mike Meyer wrote: > Cliff Sarginson types: > > Wow, memory lane time ? > > I learnt "C" on a "C" compiler found on a Decus tape for RSX11M. > > It had no code tables for floating point operations ... but apart from > > that... > > Wimp. I learned C reading the v6 kernel, and using the photo7 C > compiler just to make life interesting. > On the other hand the first language I learnt was Fortran 4 on a CDC 7600, at the time the most powerful computer in the world (designed by Mr Cray no less, before he left CDC to go on to .. well you know those big things that don't have operating systems). It was there that I learnt all I know about hardware engineering. The 7600 was built on banks of removable "modules"..when a faulty one was found it was extracted with a special tool and replaced. To find a faulty module when the diagnostics were vague the engineers resorted to a technique known as "shock testing". This involved hitting the module with a small hammer to see if the diagnostic information would become more helpful. I have often thought of applying this technique to the various bosses I have had in my life to see if I can get them to make sense. Unfortunately I discovered there was usually no module to extract. -- Regards Cliff Sarginson -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message