From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 17 01:21:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01ECD106564A; Tue, 17 Apr 2012 01:21:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mezz.freebsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE2BF8FC0A; Tue, 17 Apr 2012 01:21:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iahk25 with SMTP id k25so10714195iah.13 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2012 18:21:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=AuDjgplaexgHbXSZ837u9mnBIsXuddjpRrpfAmXqmms=; b=s1EzYEEf3EbGmiEwSm8bq/VeN6PKJ9UOHzamsl5cWHZkXqIjY6QTp3+2Uulq5sT2CI ZlII0ZM2fHlXCQhxMxh6dEHntD34S3PerWccR4K+0zcwfercNhryI24xmHxmCT4tUzc5 xbGAyo199V6V3lG090j8ncZggyDWoY1WEQ8jAFmdNUN+a8PZwrORPhGEl5Vtq10XgCkw x6yR5Cm+T/ciX74K8nUzm8d9KovCtTltICkWD2Vbgou/roq+Y290C1umFRgj/ED5SXMw 2+5qYnWqqirDr7fqvCrwQL4ePZ0zT3mxA16byxxpKXDBpIroDlSb/20w2Upoqs99JTjW sYxw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.18.71 with SMTP id w7mr8607074ica.4.1334625713299; Mon, 16 Apr 2012 18:21:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.153.4 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Apr 2012 18:21:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4F8C99DB.4040308@freebsd.org> References: <201204162115.q3GLFZnc008006@slippy.cwsent.com> <4F8C99DB.4040308@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 20:21:52 -0500 Message-ID: From: Jeremy Messenger To: Joe Marcus Clarke Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gnome2 Forks X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 01:21:54 -0000 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Joe Marcus Clarke wro= te: > On 4/16/12 5:15 PM, Cy Schubert wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> Given the state of Gnome3 and the general dislike for the new shell and >> given that gnome-panel has been deprecated by our upline, would we be op= en >> to importing one of the Gnome2 forks, like Mate or Cinnamon, into our tr= ee? I would like to change our GNOME 2 to MATE, so that way we can put GNOME 3 into ports tree quicker. Because there is nothing conflict to GNOME 3. Also much less complicate to not add too many CONFLICTS all over. Other day ago, it drove me crazy when I can't install some of foo because I have GNOME 3 installed. But.... There is a problem. Is MATE reliable? I don't know if it's going to be last forever while GNOME 2 will be in GNOME ftp for very long time. >>>From what I've read on Phoronix today, Mate has renamed a number of file= s >> allowing it to coexist with Gnome3. However Cinnamon builds upon Gnome3 >> offering a Gnome2 interface. The article goes on to say that Cinnamon ha= s a >> lot more momentum than Mate. (http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=3Dne= ws_ite >> m&px=3DMTA4ODI). >> >> Should we choose an option, my choice would be the most sustainable one >> (Cinnamon), count me in as a volunteer. Talking about sustainability, on= e >> never knows which Open Source projects will establish themselves over th= e >> long haul. It may even be a good idea to watch both and decide where to >> invest our effort when the choice becomes more clear. >> >> Thoughts anyone? >> >> > > I think that's the idea. =A0I believe Mezz has been working on Cinnamon, > and has had some good success. http://people.freebsd.org/~mezz/freebsd-cinnamon.png :-) Cinnamon has awful a lot of hardcore paths and I had to patch it a lot. It's not exactly stable. When I visit to some specific website and it will causing Cinnamon crash for some odd reason. Some of applets are missing that I haven't check on it yet. Probably yet another path patch or something else. This weekend, I will try to clean up quick and put two ports in MC for anyone can play with Cinnamon. BTW: You will need nvidia-driver for it both gnome-shell and Cinnamon. Without it, you will be in the fallback mode instead of gnome-shell/Cinnamon. Cheers, Mezz > I'll let him and kwm chime in. > > Joe > > -- > Joe Marcus Clarke > FreeBSD GNOME Team =A0 =A0 =A0:: =A0 =A0 =A0gnome@FreeBSD.org > FreeNode / #freebsd-gnome > http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome --=20 mezz.freebsd@gmail.com - mezz@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD GNOME Team http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome/ - gnome@FreeBSD.org