From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 21 17:14:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68BBA16A4CE for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 17:14:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from ozlabs.org (ozlabs.org [203.10.76.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B72FC43D53 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 17:13:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from blackwater.lemis.com (blackwater.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F91A2BD75 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 12:13:56 +1100 (EST) Received: by blackwater.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 72B3151206; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 11:43:54 +1030 (CST) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 11:43:54 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Rahul Siddharthan Message-ID: <20040122011354.GG86671@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20040107041307.GA1674@online.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5FDBdOf8+srCecG/" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040107041307.GA1674@online.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 cc: Brad Knowles cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where is FreeBSD going? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 01:14:00 -0000 --5FDBdOf8+srCecG/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sorry to drag this thread on, but I've just got round to looking at it, and I see a thing I need to clarify. On Tuesday, 6 January 2004 at 23:13:07 -0500, Rahul Siddharthan wrote: > Brad Knowles wrote: > [ ... Matt Dillon ... ] >>> OK, I've never run into that. Over on the DragonFly stuff, he seems >>> pleasant enough and his ideas are innovative, strong, if sometimes... >>> *cough*... eccentric (e.g. replacing sysinstall with an Apache server >>> and a load of PHP...), but I'll accept I haven't seen that, and I >>> know others have had their problems there. >> >> Well, since it's his project, I'm sure he feels a lot more >> secure. > > No, I have exactly the same impression from his FreeBSD mailing list > postings too, and many others said the same thing when he was chucked > out. He was always willing to help inexperienced people and his mails > were a pleasure to read for their technical detail. The impression > given out then (eg, by Greg Lehey in DaemonNews) was that he had two > faces to his personality: the friendly help-newbies one, and an > aggressive behind-the-scenes one that only showed up when dealing with > other developers. Hmm, that's not quite what I meant. Matt's usually friendly and helpful with other developers too. He just doesn't handle it gracefully when people push him around. That's hardly surprising, but I think that it upsets Matt even more than it upsets most people. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --5FDBdOf8+srCecG/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFADyPSIubykFB6QiMRAoTOAKCWTiJ0mXvQIvTaYIN60TX5U5BcVQCgjjiM f/jFwWBGs1zlAVsfH3+bBzI= =tsVu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --5FDBdOf8+srCecG/--