From owner-freebsd-chat Wed May 20 12:42:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA09583 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Wed, 20 May 1998 12:42:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freebie.brann.org ([166.84.191.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA09439; Wed, 20 May 1998 12:42:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jbrann@freebie.brann.org) Received: (from jbrann@localhost) by freebie.brann.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id PAA04067; Wed, 20 May 1998 15:42:12 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jbrann) From: John Brann Message-Id: <199805201942.PAA04067@freebie.brann.org> Subject: Re: Why we should support Microsoft... In-Reply-To: <199805201813.LAA16259@hub.freebsd.org> from "Jonathan M. Bresler" at "May 20, 98 11:13:26 am" To: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG (Jonathan M. Bresler) Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 15:42:11 -0400 (EDT) Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, hasty@rah.star-gate.com, kline@tera.tera.com, freebsd@atipa.com, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Organisation: Not while I'm at home X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jonathan M. Bresler wrote... > Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > So what is your suggestion on how should the DOJ treat Microsoft business > > > pratice? > > > > I recommend that the DOJ just leave Microsoft the hell alone. > > [snip a lot about microsoft] > > the DOJ should strive to break microsoft into two companies: > an operating system firm and an applications firm. microsoft > uses its os to force applcations upon users. microsoft > has stolen apps that it failed to write. some of these > have been added to the os product package. > [SNIP] No, I have to disagree. two is not enough. I'd suggest at least four. Split 9[58] from NT - make them compete. It might well end up with 9[58] ruling the desktop and NT becoming a server, but that would only be good. There would be reasons for NT to support Mac clients, and 9[58] to support UNIX servers. On the App side, split products like Works from the Office bloatware. Maybe we'll get a real chance to choose between industrial strength and 'cheap and cheerful'. One other result (OK, I'm being optimistic here) is that the IPC-like mechanisms in the Windows world (DDE / OLE / COM / DCOM) would need to become more stable for these products to be viable. An, what the heck, maybe the new OSes would have reasons to support 3rd-party standards with more than press releases... John -- Unreal City, Under the brown fog of a winter dawn, finger jbrann@doorman.brann.org for pgp public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message