From owner-dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org Sun Feb 28 03:01:46 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: dev-commits-src-all@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D03B755E6BD; Sun, 28 Feb 2021 03:01:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bdragon@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [96.47.72.83]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Dp7TQ45kWz4m3G; Sun, 28 Feb 2021 03:01:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bdragon@FreeBSD.org) Received: from auth1-smtp.messagingengine.com (auth1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.227]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: bdragon/mail) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7DD6922A54; Sun, 28 Feb 2021 03:01:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bdragon@FreeBSD.org) Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43]) by mailauth.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E31327C0054; Sat, 27 Feb 2021 22:01:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from imap38 ([10.202.2.88]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 27 Feb 2021 22:01:46 -0500 X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduledrleeggdehfecutefuodetggdotefrodftvf curfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfghnecu uegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenfg hrlhcuvffnffculddutddmnecujfgurhepofgfggfkjghffffhvffutgesthdtredtreer jeenucfhrhhomhepfdeurhgrnhguohhnuceuvghrghhrvghnfdcuoegsughrrghgohhnse fhrhgvvgeuufffrdhorhhgqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpeejhfeftddutdelgeekgedt geejkeffvdejtddthefggfevuefggfefledvgefhgfenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpe dtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpegsughrrghgohhnodhmvghsmhhtphgruhht hhhpvghrshhonhgrlhhithihqddutdegvdefheekieegqddukedutdekheduqdgsughrrg hgohhnpeephfhrvggvuefuffdrohhrghesihhmrghprdgttg X-ME-Proxy: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 501) id D566FCA005D; Sat, 27 Feb 2021 22:01:45 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.5.0-alpha0-141-gf094924a34-fm-20210210.001-gf094924a Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <202102232124.11NLOT27012354@gitrepo.freebsd.org> <01000177d0e7f033-389acb59-2004-4040-ba7c-762878ef86b4-000000@email.amazonses.com> <583f83d8-c78b-d961-d2c5-9693bd36563b@freebsd.org> <743fd126-2077-49b1-9c85-7ccc61616b98@www.fastmail.com> <460ceb98-e0c1-42b3-8e3c-2587c5ce8398@www.fastmail.com> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2021 21:01:25 -0600 From: "Brandon Bergren" To: "Warner Losh" , "Jessica Clarke" Cc: "Nathan Whitehorn" , "Colin Percival" , src-committers , "" , dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_git:_0b7472b3d8d2_-_main_-_Mount_the_EFI_system_partition_?= =?UTF-8?Q?(ESP)_on_newly-installed_systems.?= Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Commit messages for all branches of the src repository List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2021 03:01:46 -0000 On Sat, Feb 27, 2021, at 8:39 PM, Warner Losh wrote: > > 32-bit Arm can boot via EFI. Just mips* and powerpc*. > > There was some rumblings of little endian powerpc64 efi, but I don't > think it's ready... I've never heard of such things. PAPR/LoPAPR/LoPAR (pseries) is specified as an OpenFirmware platform, and I don't see that changing in the future given the way it's baked into the spec. And PowerNV is a minimal-runtime-services platform where the runtime abstraction (OPAL) calls don't include any sort of way to access disk devices. Do you mean alternative firmware for PowerNV? I've heard people talking on and off about coreboot, but I don't see that becoming mainstream over the petitboot skiroot payload. I don't see the pseries virtualization requirements changing away from OpenFirmware in the future either, given the OpenFirmware requirement has been a constant all the way back to CHRP. > > Yea, we have long since switched our preferred boot on arm to EFI... > though we don't have installer images for 32bit arm, which is this > runs... so it's needed for correctness, but not a practical > difference... > > Warner -- Brandon Bergren bdragon@FreeBSD.org