From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Tue Oct 27 16:12:25 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F33DFA1EDD9 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 16:12:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fkr@hazardous.org) Received: from smtp.bytemine.net (smtp.fra2.bytemine.net [IPv6:2a00:12d8:200a::43]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B9BBA19AC for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 16:12:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fkr@hazardous.org) Received: from hoza07.fra.bytemine.net ([91.212.95.175]) by smtp.bytemine.net with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Zr6r6-00040E-WB; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 17:12:12 +0100 Received: from vpn.fra.bytemine.net ([91.212.95.9] helo=badwater.local) by hoza07.fra.bytemine.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1Zr6r1-0007rP-LZ; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 17:12:07 +0100 Message-ID: <562FA251.6050900@hazardous.org> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 17:12:01 +0100 From: Felix Kronlage User-Agent: Postbox 4.0.7 (Macintosh/20151021) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lyndon Nerenberg CC: John-Mark Gurney , freebsd-current Current Subject: Re: Depreciate and remove gbde References: <6216.1445631619@critter.freebsd.dk> <201510241559.t9OFwsiF078038@fire.js.berklix.net> <20151024190611.GE65715@funkthat.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 16:20:52 +0000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 16:12:26 -0000 Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > On Oct 24, 2015, at 12:06 PM, John-Mark Gurney wrote: >> The thing I like most about encryption is that when I RMA a bad >> drive, I don't have to worry about my data leaking if I am unable >> to overwrite all the data... > You are optimistic if you believe that. We ($WORK) factor the cost of DOA/warranty drives into our operational budget. They never get RMAed. We drill them when they die. Can only second that. One of the reasons why we work with hardware vendors that offer Keep-your-drive warranty. That way, we get to keep the broken drive and still get them RMA'ed. Can definitly recommend that ;) felix