From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 13 01:17:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DC4216A41F for ; Sat, 13 Aug 2005 01:17:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kgunders@teamcool.net) Received: from koyukuk.teamcool.net (koyukuk.teamcool.net [209.161.34.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3802443D45 for ; Sat, 13 Aug 2005 01:17:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kgunders@teamcool.net) Received: from koyukuk.teamcool.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by koyukuk.teamcool.net (TeamCool Rocks) with ESMTP id 5944B11EB9 for ; Fri, 12 Aug 2005 19:17:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from cochise.teamcool.net (unknown [192.168.1.57]) by koyukuk.teamcool.net (TeamCool Rocks) with ESMTP id 1CBBC11EB8 for ; Fri, 12 Aug 2005 19:17:04 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 19:17:03 -0600 From: Ken Gunderson To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20050812191703.6d8361ab.kgunders@teamcool.net> In-Reply-To: <20050812234246.GF2815@sentinelchicken.net> References: <20050812085823.645f5b39.kgunders@teamcool.net> <20050812205356.GA15463@saturn.kn-bremen.de> <20050812163335.0aa48954.kgunders@teamcool.net> <20050812234246.GF2815@sentinelchicken.net> Organization: Teamcool Networks X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.9.12 (GTK+ 2.6.7; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Subject: Re: workstation mobo X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 01:17:07 -0000 On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 19:42:46 -0400 Jason Morgan wrote: > On Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 04:33:35PM -0600, Ken Gunderson wrote: > > On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 22:53:56 +0200 > > Juergen Lock wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 08:58:23AM -0600, Ken Gunderson wrote: > > > > Greets All: > > > > > > > > I'm liking these amd opteron servers so much that I am considering > > > > building an amd based workstationn. Assumed it would be Athalon based > > > > but in searching archives I note that some folks seem to prefer the > > > > opterons for workstation use. Perhaps to some degree in reaction > > > > to the "chipset mess". I'm not averse to spending a bit more for the > > > > opteron system but it seems to me the Opteron's CPU heatsink/fan might > > > > be a bit noisy for workstation use. And I have buddies shouting in my > > > > ear to "stick w/ Intel" for workstation. But then I also know others > > > > who run AMD for their desktop machines. Any recommends based on current > > > > state of affairs in the ADM hardware world? > > > > > > I just got a new box with an Asus A8V Deluxe board (VIA K8T800 Pro, > > > Socket 939), and so far everything seems to be working. The only > > > unusual thing i had to do for FreeBSD (5.4-R) was adding a patch > > > to the sk nic driver (see other thread.) > > > > Thanks to all who responded. I've got a buddy who swears that the 2MB > > L2 cache P4's, e.g. the 640 et.al. are kicking butt on the Athalons. I > > know to some degree it boils down to personal preference and don't want > > to beat the topic to death but input is appreciated since I've mostly > > been building opteron as of late (and xeons before that) server class > > machines so am kind of out of date on the workstation side of things. > > If you're simply looking for the most powerful system you can get, I'd > check out Toms Hardware or one of the other numerous sites that have > up-to-date benchmarking. If you're worried about FreeBSD and the > hardware getting along, then that's another matter. I have been running > a socket 939 AMD 3500+ for some time - never had an issue. However, > it's not usually the CPU that will give you issues in FreeBSD. My > advice is to find the best MBs out there (ie work well with FreeBSD) > and make your choice based on the features provided by those MBs. Thanks for the suggestion but I pretty much don't believe anything I read at Tom's anymore.... >;-P I can do some research other places but basically if they run a single banner ad then their opinions are suspect. Whereas... freebsd-amd64 ROCKS!!! -;) This doesn't need to be "most powerful system" I can get. I'll be targeting the "sweet spot" w.r.t. "bang for the buck". Don't need to be on the bleeding edge. These boards are making the short list: -Abit AV8 -Abit AX8 (anyone can report how this runs under 5.x?) -Asus A8V Deluxe -Asus A8V-E Deluxe The AX8 is probably top of my list at this point in time assuming I can get it to run under 5.x. Hence I would be particularly interested if anybody could confirm one way or the other. I like Asus mb's but also have a fondness for Abit since I have about 8 AbitBX6r2's w/700MHz PIII's still going strong after all these years ... I don't really need PCI-E at this time but all other things being equal it would be nice to add a bit more future proofing.... -- Best regards, Ken Gunderson Q: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. A: Why is putting a reply at the top of the message frowned upon?