From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu May 28 06:43:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA15895 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 06:43:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from spinner.netplex.com.au (spinner.netplex.com.au [202.12.86.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA15608; Thu, 28 May 1998 06:42:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Received: from spinner.netplex.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spinner.netplex.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8/Spinner) with ESMTP id VAA08110; Thu, 28 May 1998 21:41:27 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from peter@spinner.netplex.com.au) Message-Id: <199805281341.VAA08110@spinner.netplex.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Dom Mitchell cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sendmail 8.9 In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 28 May 1998 08:26:58 +0100." Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 21:41:27 +0800 From: Peter Wemm Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dom Mitchell wrote: > Peter Wemm writes: > > Before everybody jumps up and says "use xyzmail[er] instead" or "just > > don't ship anything in the base", I'm not sure that we can do that as > > parts of the base *assume* that sendmail (or a workalike) is present. > > VMailer, exim and smail all go to quite strong lengths to be sendmail > compatible. In particular, I've been using exim for some time (over a > year) as a sendmail replacement and found no faults. It's still GPL'd > though. > > And there's still the massive body of sysadmin inertia that *knows* > sendmail... Yes... Sendmail, for all it's warts, is pretty much a known quantity. > Wouldn't it be easier to just stick with 8.8.8 until the licensing > issues of this latest sendmail can be clarified? Yes, that's pretty much what is happening by default. I have asked the sendmail people twice now about this and still have got no response. I might try sending by fax next. I find it quite ironic that people setting up to sell sendmail don't have a handle on email. > > Maybe it's time to bring back a basic local-only mail transport that gets > > blown away when a real sendmail or comparable (qmail, smail, vmailer, > > exim, etc etc) gets installed from a port. Sigh. > > That's certainly one solution; was one of these things used before? > If so, where can I get a look at it? > > P.S. You left out MMDF. :-) MMDF can go away and die. I've wasted too much of my life fighting MMDF (and often loosing).. Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm Netplex Consulting To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message