From owner-freebsd-current Sat Dec 30 15:34:36 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA24556 for current-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 15:34:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from vector.enet (slip139-92-42-143.emea.ibm.net [139.92.42.143]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA24469 Sat, 30 Dec 1995 15:33:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vector.enet (8.7.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA25809; Sun, 31 Dec 1995 00:30:56 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199512302330.AAA25809@vector.enet> X-Authentication-Warning: vector.enet: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: minor change to ls -l Reply-To: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: Vector Systems Ltd. (Internet Unix & C Consultants) Address: Holz Strasse 27d, 80469 Munich, Germany Phone: +49.89.268616 Fax: +49.89.2608126 (pending reconfig) Web: http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ Mailer: EXMH version 1.6.5 95 12 11 In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 30 Dec 1995 14:27:20 +0100." <199512301327.OAA00348@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 00:30:55 +0100 From: "Julian H. Stacey" Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Reference: > What do people think about the following change to the behaviour of > ls -l? Inconsistent. I see how it might be useful, could be atractive, but if you do it for /dev/rod* for consistency it should be done for /dev/pcaudio* & all other /dev & then there'd be a mass of manuals that refer to the old decimal values, to be updated by ... who ? I grant you those large decimals are ugly as hell, maybe we should bite the inconsistency bullet :-) > Currently: > > j@uriah 54% ls -l /dev/*ctl > crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 24, 128 Feb 10 1995 /dev/pcaudioctl > crw------- 1 root wheel 70, 536870912 Aug 19 14:44 /dev/rod0.ctl > crw------- 1 root wheel 13, 536870912 Jun 10 1995 /dev/rsd0.ctl > crw------- 1 root wheel 13, 536870920 Jun 10 1995 /dev/rsd1.ctl > crw------- 1 root wheel 13, 536870928 Jun 15 1995 /dev/rsd2.ctl > crw------- 1 root wheel 13, 536870936 Aug 15 23:50 /dev/rsd3.ctl > > Intended: > > j@uriah 55% ./ls -l /dev/*ctl > crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 24, 128 Feb 10 1995 /dev/pcaudioctl > crw------- 1 root wheel 70, 0x20000000 Aug 19 14:44 /dev/rod0.ctl > crw------- 1 root wheel 13, 0x20000000 Jun 10 1995 /dev/rsd0.ctl > crw------- 1 root wheel 13, 0x20000008 Jun 10 1995 /dev/rsd1.ctl > crw------- 1 root wheel 13, 0x20000010 Jun 15 1995 /dev/rsd2.ctl > crw------- 1 root wheel 13, 0x20000018 Aug 15 23:50 /dev/rsd3.ctl > > > -- > cheers, J"org > > joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE > Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) > Regards, Julian. -- Julian H. Stacey jhs@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/