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Date:      Sat, 30 Sep 1995 13:18:33 -0700 (PDT)
From:      "Rodney W. Grimes" <rgrimes@GndRsh.aac.dev.com>
To:        jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard)
Cc:        jkh@freefall.freebsd.org, CVS-commiters@freefall.freebsd.org, cvs-user@freefall.freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/release/sysinstall install.c media.c tape.c
Message-ID:  <199509302018.NAA02098@GndRsh.aac.dev.com>
In-Reply-To: <21315.812491456@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Sep 30, 95 01:04:16 pm

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> 
> > Would it be possible to have this controlled by the installation option
> > menu so that you could have either "", "-v" or "-V".  I dislike haveing
> > either -v or -V on as it causes error messages to scroll off the screen
> > if I am not watching closely, and watching installs closely is not something
> > I do very often :-)
> 
> Well, I'd have to add another sysinstall state variable, add it to the
> options menu and then build the cpio argument lists more dynamically
> in several places.  It's not a royal pain, but I'm also trying to
> minimize the changes I make to sysinstall at this stage so that I
> don't break something in between snapshots and final release.

Humm... in that case I think ``I'' would rather see this switched back to
doing the dots things, as at least then I had a chance to see an error in
the output, as a by file name type listing will quickly scroll any type
of error off the debug screens.  You can implement the "", "-v", "-V"
option as a 2.2 feature addition.

> How do other folks feel about this?  If there's enough general feeling
> that the level of "detail" provided on the debug screen should be so
> configurable, I'll add it.

I guess my major concern was that the verbosity of cpio -v is going to
make it impossible to catch errors occuring during the extract process :-(.
At least -V fills the screen slowly enough (even when extracting from
very fast media like 4X cdrom or 100BaseTX NFS) that you can catch file
write errors or other strange things that can sometimes occur during
the extraction process.  cpio -v with fast setups makes the screen a
blur of file names :-).

On another sysintstall related output issue, just where do kernel messages
go???  I made a small mistake the other day while playing with sysinstall
and assigned two systems the same IP address, well, the kernel message
didn't show up on either of them saying that someone had claimed there
IP address and it took me about 15 minutes to figure out what had gone
wrong and why the install that had happily been running along suddenly
just hung :-(.

Are these kernel messages perhaps buried behind the main install screen
running on ttyv0???  If so, as a 2.2 feature, would it be possible to
leave ttyv0 in text mode and run that screen on another vty?

> 					Jordan


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Rod Grimes                                      rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com
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