From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Tue Jun 21 03:47:43 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BAFBAC5DA5 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2016 03:47:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Received: from mail-it0-x22c.google.com (mail-it0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E9A212D2F; Tue, 21 Jun 2016 03:47:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Received: by mail-it0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id f6so5169721ith.0; Mon, 20 Jun 2016 20:47:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=wsexcICofs5LtCWi3MSkG4PcrmPsJr9cQGH5Vqg95Gc=; b=brhvbdW3ABVMV9RPP75qMceHVYZOQCVq0WQudRHyntUwB2MDFfB8Jd8EPGvsfmVZf0 tEeZgPnIKI+gVqXBcQceLgPl/0PId7JGUv2e1bRAYGj5+qBYdHrvtpCKvE4I6O6xl9DJ qsPwJSfmNqAUkMogOIIdvKQU5YPt7UfdC+tXi3vlDPEpoStbzEPKMYCoBCbzdqK9oilC 6669W9mEM5RAhUsfFf7MooSMoKgcHZW5Kv/p7HohMhQCHXkZXQbtvkoWb8tPMsOmPr1j /ZfaokbSUFuTWPhQHCpJSr2+goLUSFWawMJfX4aGJaVkJ+UyOsT/ZGNU1gyXG3F9p+tr WAfg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=wsexcICofs5LtCWi3MSkG4PcrmPsJr9cQGH5Vqg95Gc=; b=lEI55vX0q5dRb2EA157lf2bZlnXB1aBmiSz3V93Pwip83ofKN37SYQpnufSlgVsMn5 VaxjFDlGpij8Zkx86/27qgzXsmT0hj5hWBFa0FJVEygg7nrytcf3qcWipetFCDWX8X8/ Dv/RHi69JVt9licpVT2FbQHT/w+GmxTeBfoaNxo+Do9NbokoQ3nMpMNLNemdEFt2L4Cg klQIFoRF7jsFVwkX9skkluV8nRo+tiTEbE+ofvIZ7fcEXcr9iiSGQCMf7yNb2pAWWZKf 3JTl8JXLCyj5MiYbwQQTHCkAg5eIPWQbk5ZoSBTuHjfHUJPEB6FV6WBxIeQVT0n8f/yf PtXg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tJQ+xPZcNJy6O/myBJwucpl0AAy4hgJY2/78XibBxHc0KJkigJg9vJJhAa4RNrlXbJKoTUbsM6505Cb2A== X-Received: by 10.36.239.70 with SMTP id i67mr1973372ith.59.1466480862421; Mon, 20 Jun 2016 20:47:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: carpeddiem@gmail.com Received: by 10.107.6.213 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2016 20:47:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <31205295.d0H0JTrSWj@ralph.baldwin.cx> References: <57680D69.7030309@gmail.com> <576857F3.5040102@gmail.com> <31205295.d0H0JTrSWj@ralph.baldwin.cx> From: Ed Maste Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 03:47:22 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: FaWjWIJR45PYuMNV5PCS9HhZMR0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: console in 11.0-ALPHA4 To: John Baldwin Cc: Ernie Luzar , =?UTF-8?Q?Trond_Endrest=C3=B8l?= , FreeBSD current Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 03:47:43 -0000 On 20 June 2016 at 23:22, John Baldwin wrote: > > There are tradeoffs in both directions. Neither console is a subset of the > other. However, sc(4) is not really extendable to support the things it is > missing. vt(4) is actively worked on, and patches for the features it lacks > that you need are certainly welcomed. You may also switch back to sc(4) by adding "kern.vty=sc" to /boot/loader.conf.