Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 13:53:13 +0100 From: Peter Schuller <peter.schuller@infidyne.com> To: "Michael C. Shultz" <reso3w83@verizon.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portupgrade vs. portmanager Message-ID: <20041225125311.GA43679@scode-whitestar.mine.nu> In-Reply-To: <200412241731.14458.reso3w83@verizon.net> References: <41CBB0D6.6080807@att.net> <200412241125.04925.reso3w83@verizon.net> <20041224235211.GA25610@scode-whitestar.mine.nu> <200412241731.14458.reso3w83@verizon.net>
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> Right now portmanager is upgrading kdelibs and I'm still using it. The > only problem that might occur is between the deinstall/reinstall steps > I'll be missing the libraries for about a minute, when this happens I > just wait untill its finished reinstalling then continue. > Here is a recap of what happens: ... > I've been testing this for a year now and haven't had a problem yet > using a program while it is being updated. That does indeed sound perfectly painless. I failed to remember that there is another factor playing into my annoyance with pkg_chk - namely that it seems to remove dependent packages in chunks prior to re-installing them. So the end-result is that the system is completely missing several packages for extended periods of time while a bunch of other packages are being compiled. I don't know why this is done or exactly under what circumstances. But indeed, the way portmanager behaves as you described above sounds a lot better. > Portupgrade has one serious flaw in my opinion and that is running > something like pkgdb -F damages the port installation database as far > as I'm concerned. It causes the data base to say ports were built with > dependency ports that they were never really built with. Portmanager > only addresses that one issue and for the forseeable future that is > where all the focus will be, only on correctly updating ports. Ok. That sounds good. To be honest I have never understood why the dependencies seem to randombly break, requiring a lot of fiddling with pkgdb. I tried portmanager in the past but missed the fact of 'proper' upgrading of entire dependency chains. I will have another go now though. Thanks for the clarifications! -- / Peter Schuller, InfiDyne Technologies HB PGP userID: 0xE9758B7D or 'Peter Schuller <peter.schuller@infidyne.com>' Key retrieval: Send an E-Mail to getpgpkey@scode.org E-Mail: peter.schuller@infidyne.com Web: http://www.scode.org
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